CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
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CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
Can my school send an A and B team to the two different regionals in my region? In other states I've seen schools send A and B teams to their regionals? But no one ever does it in CA...Can we?
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Re: CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
I have no idea what the rules in California are, but this is an interesting idea. Would the reason for doing it be because your A and B teams are evenly matched, so separating them will make them less likely to bring each other down in the rankings by beating each other in events, therefore making them both more likely to make it to state?
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Re: CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
Last year, when we had four teams, we tried to send two to each of the two regionals in our region for that reason and because managing four teams at once can be a nightmare with limited volunteers, but we couldn't because for some events that the regional directors did not find extra volunteers for, tests were reused from the other regional.watermydoing14 wrote:I have no idea what the rules in California are, but this is an interesting idea. Would the reason for doing it be because your A and B teams are evenly matched, so separating them will make them less likely to bring each other down in the rankings by beating each other in events, therefore making them both more likely to make it to state?
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Re: CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
This would be a good way to raise participation; a method with the state to send additional teams to other Regionals.watermydoing14 wrote:I have no idea what the rules in California are, but this is an interesting idea. Would the reason for doing it be because your A and B teams are evenly matched, so separating them will make them less likely to bring each other down in the rankings by beating each other in events, therefore making them both more likely to make it to state?
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Re: CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
And for C division, this would help more people with conflicts have opportunities to compete. However, one flaw I see is that one team would have to somehow be designated as the team willing to go to state (if that's the case).Unome wrote:This would be a good way to raise participation; a method with the state to send additional teams to other Regionals.watermydoing14 wrote:I have no idea what the rules in California are, but this is an interesting idea. Would the reason for doing it be because your A and B teams are evenly matched, so separating them will make them less likely to bring each other down in the rankings by beating each other in events, therefore making them both more likely to make it to state?
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Re: CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
If you say a state allows x teams at Regionals, additional teams could be entered after normal sign-ups close, and would just not be counted for state bids.samlan16 wrote:And for C division, this would help more people with conflicts have opportunities to compete. However, one flaw I see is that one team would have to somehow be designated as the team willing to go to state (if that's the case).Unome wrote:This would be a good way to raise participation; a method with the state to send additional teams to other Regionals.watermydoing14 wrote:I have no idea what the rules in California are, but this is an interesting idea. Would the reason for doing it be because your A and B teams are evenly matched, so separating them will make them less likely to bring each other down in the rankings by beating each other in events, therefore making them both more likely to make it to state?
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Re: CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
The point of trying to send teams to multiple regionals would be to try to subvert our one school/one team can go to state rule. If we had sent our B team to another regional, they would have placed 1st unless they were competing against the Dodgen B team. That would be a competition.
There was a reason for the hundred point gap between the top 2 Ga teams and the next 3 teams. Because the actual 3rd and 4th best teams in Ga are the Dodgen and FSA B teams.
Georgia does not "officially" limit us to 3 teams per school, we CAN add a 4th If there is extra room at our chosen regional. There was not room this year. I am not interested in taking the team to the locations that had extra space. All regionals are not created equal.
There was a reason for the hundred point gap between the top 2 Ga teams and the next 3 teams. Because the actual 3rd and 4th best teams in Ga are the Dodgen and FSA B teams.
Georgia does not "officially" limit us to 3 teams per school, we CAN add a 4th If there is extra room at our chosen regional. There was not room this year. I am not interested in taking the team to the locations that had extra space. All regionals are not created equal.
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Re: CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
I honestly just want to get my B team some practice, even if they had no chance of going to state, it's a good way to get everyone to compete and also we would be competitive at both regionals even with a b team.
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Re: CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
I know some regionals in CA allow multiple teams per school. That way more students can participate which I believe is a good thing. This greatly increases the participation rate and generates more competition. However, if the question is "different" regionals, then I think the answer is no (you can only participate in your own region).Chris_L wrote:Can my school send an A and B team to the two different regionals in my region? In other states I've seen schools send A and B teams to their regionals? But no one ever does it in CA...Can we?
Nonetheless, sending multiple teams would depend on the region and I don't know if it is different in Northern CA vs. Southern as they are run as two different states. I don't know where you are, so I cannot comment on yours. But, for example, in the highly competitive San Diego region, each school can take multiple teams. Nonetheless, only one team would go to state and only one team is ranked in terms of a team trophy. For example, if School A sent three teams to the regional and they finished 1-2-3, then School A would win the first place trophy but not second or third. The school with the team that finished in that finished in fourth place would win the second place trophy, etc.
Some people might say that it hurts smaller programs as they could be beaten out of any chance at individual medals. However, here is some evidence against that. I have seen small elementary schools with 5th and 6th graders take two teams to regionals (since no Division A is available) and place in not only in events but also the school qualified for states. Very impressive. In fact, two elementary schools have made it to the state B tournament in each of the past two years and those teams have done reasonably well in that competition. Then as students move into middle school (and high school), there are a LOT of individuals interested in science and it makes the whole region that much more exciting.
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Re: CA-Multiple Teams at Regionals?
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone here except for maybe one person can answer that questionChris_L wrote:Can my school send an A and B team to the two different regionals in my region? In other states I've seen schools send A and B teams to their regionals? But no one ever does it in CA...Can we?
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