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Protein Modeling C
Protein Modeling C: Students will use computer visualization and online resources to construct physical models of the CRISPR Cas9 protein that is being engineered to edit plant and animal cell genomes, and answer a series of questions about the chemistry of protein folding and the interaction of structure and function for model proteins.
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Protein Modeling Wiki
http://cbm.msoe.edu/scienceOlympiad/
Official Protein Modeling Event Facebook Page (many photos of models from nationals are posted here)
Past Threads:
2011 (Pluripotent Stem Cells)
2012 (Apoptosis)
2015 (Human Genome Editing)
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Past Question Marathons: 2015
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Re: Protein Modeling C
Only first day after rules come out and I already have questions..
so here they come:
1. In Jmol if I enter "restrict 1-85" I get around 4 distinct backbones. Is this correct?
2. How should I research and find which secondary structures are important to the function of the protein?
and lastly:
3. In jmol I would do the "select structures" and realize that one of the dna strands is also a beta sheet. So when I build my model, should I say that it is dna or a beta sheet?
(If you can't tell I am very lost)
Thanks
so here they come:
1. In Jmol if I enter "restrict 1-85" I get around 4 distinct backbones. Is this correct?
2. How should I research and find which secondary structures are important to the function of the protein?
and lastly:
3. In jmol I would do the "select structures" and realize that one of the dna strands is also a beta sheet. So when I build my model, should I say that it is dna or a beta sheet?
(If you can't tell I am very lost)
Thanks
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Re: Protein Modeling C
1. When I opened it and played around with it, I saw four beta pleated strands and one long alpha helix.luanne wrote:Only first day after rules come out and I already have questions..
so here they come:
1. In Jmol if I enter "restrict 1-85" I get around 4 distinct backbones. Is this correct?
2. How should I research and find which secondary structures are important to the function of the protein?
and lastly:
3. In jmol I would do the "select structures" and realize that one of the dna strands is also a beta sheet. So when I build my model, should I say that it is dna or a beta sheet?
(If you can't tell I am very lost)
Thanks
2. The cbm msoe website will upload lots of resources for that part, however, the name of the paper accompanies the PDB file info on RCSB, with that title you could probably search it on the web. If it doesn't grant you access, see if you can log in through your school's library system to get to it.
3. "select structures" is a pretty general command. Most of the time, you would do "select" and then your more specific kind of structure like "helix," "sheet," "dna," "rna," etc. then you can use Boolean operators to select multiple kinds of structures at once. I'm not entirely sure what you did that made it appear that way since the two are biochemically very different. But no, if it does not have amino acid structures, then it cannot be a beta sheet.
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Re: Protein Modeling C
Do we need to model all four of the strands? If so, how? If not, which one do we need to model?
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Re: Protein Modeling C
Hm When i played around, i got 5 sheets. I think we have to restrict the chain to B (?). They still haven't updated the prebuild link that's on the event description.pikachu4919 wrote:1. When I opened it and played around with it, I saw four beta pleated strands and one long alpha helix.luanne wrote:Only first day after rules come out and I already have questions..
so here they come:
1. In Jmol if I enter "restrict 1-85" I get around 4 distinct backbones. Is this correct?
2. How should I research and find which secondary structures are important to the function of the protein?
and lastly:
3. In jmol I would do the "select structures" and realize that one of the dna strands is also a beta sheet. So when I build my model, should I say that it is dna or a beta sheet?
(If you can't tell I am very lost)
Thanks
2. The cbm msoe website will upload lots of resources for that part, however, the name of the paper accompanies the PDB file info on RCSB, with that title you could probably search it on the web. If it doesn't grant you access, see if you can log in through your school's library system to get to it.
3. "select structures" is a pretty general command. Most of the time, you would do "select" and then your more specific kind of structure like "helix," "sheet," "dna," "rna," etc. then you can use Boolean operators to select multiple kinds of structures at once. I'm not entirely sure what you did that made it appear that way since the two are biochemically very different. But no, if it does not have amino acid structures, then it cannot be a beta sheet.
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Re: Protein Modeling C
in the rules it just said residue 1-85?nervoussenior1 wrote:
Hm When i played around, i got 5 sheets. I think we have to restrict the chain to B (?). They still haven't updated the prebuild link that's on the event description.
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Re: Protein Modeling C
Like on the rcsb website it says that chain B is the protein and chain A C D are nucleic acids/hybrids. And the description says to model residues 1-85 of the PROTEIN, so I just assumed that we restrict it to B. I may be wrong because it's my first time doing protein modeling.luanne wrote:in the rules it just said residue 1-85?nervoussenior1 wrote:
Hm When i played around, i got 5 sheets. I think we have to restrict the chain to B (?). They still haven't updated the prebuild link that's on the event description.
Re: Protein Modeling C
Like on the rcsb website it says that chain B is the protein and chain A C D are nucleic acids/hybrids. And the description says to model residues 1-85 of the PROTEIN, so I just assumed that we restrict it to B. I may be wrong because it's my first time doing protein modeling.luanne wrote:in the rules it just said residue 1-85?nervoussenior1 wrote:
Hm When i played around, i got 5 sheets. I think we have to restrict the chain to B (?). They still haven't updated the prebuild link that's on the event description.
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Re: Protein Modeling C
hmm, I guess we are going to have to wait until msoe uploads their work.. and its my first time too, but I was pretty sure if it was just chain 'b' it would say "Residue 1-85 of chain B"
I could be totally wrong tho
I could be totally wrong tho
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Re: Protein Modeling C
Also, rcsb hasn't updated their science Olympiad page? It is still on influenza from last year.
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