2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[andrewwski]

Sorry, but that's not a credible display, in my opinion. I'm seeing a lot of numbers and not a lot of sources or explanations as to how they were obtained.

And you can't exactly use them to back up your claims either, as you were speaking about "unfair statements against sarah[sic] palin[sic]" and you're showing charts that aren't covering that. They're measuring the positive and negative coverage of the media against the presidential candidates and political parties, not anything about statements against Palin.

And you can't use it to back up your statements about the media being biased either. The measure of positive, neutral, and negative coverage of a candidate and/or party does not necessarily reflect bias.

Fox News is so blatantly biased toward the right that it's almost impossible not to laugh at it sometimes. I'd say MSNBC is slightly left-leaning, but not awful. CNN seems to be pretty much in the middle.

I don't know what you're even talking about when you say Obama doesn't do well in interviews. Obama is excellent in interviews. He's an excellent public speaker, and he's an excellent personal speaker. He rarely trips up, and is very calm and logical when he's speaking to anyone.

I don't think anyone cares what papers Palin reads either. But the fact that she couldn't answer the question is appalling. And the whole thing about Putin flying over Alaska airspace that she said to Couric...she was just awful there.

I'm not necessarily for or against her beliefs, but she's not qualified to be one step away from the leader of this country. Regardless of her background, she's shown it throughout the campaign.

And I have to disagree with you on the newspapers as well. Very few papers are biased. The AP, which is the major source of all articles, is about as neutral as anything can get. The only bias you're going to find in newspapers is in the opinion or editorial sections, or in the commentary columns. As far as articles go, it's going to be unbiased.

Newspapers historically and presently are considered very unbiased. There's one reason behind it as well...they want to appeal to everyone. While a television or radio station may want to appeal to a certain crowd, newspapers need to appeal to everyone - diehard liberals, diehard conservatives, and everyone inbetween.

So I don't know where you get your news or the rest of your information, but it certainly doesn't seem to be rooted in much fact.

[aphoticruby]

KACHOW!

Not only is andrew correct, but there are other factors as well. I bet if you were to throw up a graph of media coverage of Hitler you would find it overwhelmingly negative as well. Is that an "anti-Hitler" bias, or simply the media doing their job in reporting unbiasedly on things? Bias is not in the tone of the arguments presented, but in what facts are chosen. You're really just grasping at straws. I'm sure you make your parents proud, but don't for one second think that you are doing anything more than recapitulating baseless ideas fed to you from above.

[dudeincolorado]

McKinney!!!!!! she matches my views best. isn't the best way to waste your vote to voting on something you believe in? can't argue with that!

i think political parties kinda lessen the democratic process like if you were to vote in a class over what snack to have you wouldnt split into two groups and totally rally to vote for the views of that group its point less the quite kid gets left out if your still reading this you amazing because im just kinda ranting so that fun right? anyway if this was a class election for what snack you wouldnt splint into two groups with the REALLY similar snack related views... PURPLE!!!!! (see the color analogy I use there?)

McKinney!!!

wait isnt the judgment of tone bias?... darn tootin
im not saying that your wrong im just saying that that SPECIFIC study didnt follow the scientific method as well as it could have this IS a science olympiad forum right?

[i brk a lot of eggs]

[computernerd4826]

I personally think that NBC is hugely biased against john mcain. The only show that is unbiased is Saturday Night Live. Which in my opinion is extremely disheartening. Why is practically all of tv with obama when news is supposed to be unbiased. There are only a few network shows left that are unbiased:Meet the press, 60 Minutes,Fiegler and Friends? Any other ideas? The press should be unbiased at all times. No matter what.

thank you

so you other guys are telling me these aren't credible sources?
http://journalism.org/node/13436
http://journalism.org/node/13307
Journalism.org is pew research center's project for excellence in journalism...
The Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan "fact tank" that provides information on the issues, attitudes and trends shaping America and the world. It does so by conducting public opinion polling and social science research; by reporting news and analyzing news coverage; and by holding forums and briefings. It does not take positions on policy issues.

Sorry, but that's not a credible display, in my opinion. I'm seeing a lot of numbers and not a lot of sources or explanations as to how they were obtained.
And you can't use it to back up your statements about the media being biased either. The measure of positive, neutral, and negative coverage of a candidate and/or party does not necessarily reflect bias.

Fox News is so blatantly biased toward the right that it's almost impossible not to laugh at it sometimes. I'd say MSNBC is slightly left-leaning, but not awful. CNN seems to be pretty much in the middle.

that is all straight from their website
is this what all democrats do? deny something that is clearly true?
what about Bill Ayers....
don't even get me started on the reverend

[computernerd4826]

as i can see, I am fighting a losing battle
i am not going to continue this dispute until at least one more republican joins in to help me

i am clearly outmatched by aphoticruby and dudeincolorado and others, so unless i can get an ally in 3 days, i will concede defeat

[i brk a lot of eggs]

as i can see, I am fighting a losing battle
i am not going to continue this dispute until at least one more republican joins in to help me

i am clearly outmatched by aphoticruby and dudeincolorado and others, so unless i can get an ally in 3 days, i will concede defeat

[computernerd4826]

joe the plumber lives in a cigar box under my bed
i admire him for showing how a single person can change campaigns by just going to a rally and voicing your opinion
yay joe the plumber!

[robotman]

i agree most news is biased towards one or the other but one thats not is BBC

[aphoticruby]

I personally think that NBC is hugely biased against john mcain. The only show that is unbiased is Saturday Night Live. Which in my opinion is extremely disheartening. Why is practically all of tv with obama when news is supposed to be unbiased. There are only a few network shows left that are unbiased:Meet the press, 60 Minutes,Fiegler and Friends? Any other ideas? The press should be unbiased at all times. No matter what.

What are you talking about on bias? McCain is simply doing more bad things worth reporting on. His healthcare plan doeen't actually work, so it isn't "bias" when the news calls him on that. It isn't "bias" when the media informs us that Palin can't name a single newspaper, or two supreme court cases, or that she was found of wrongdoing by the Alaska ethics board, or that she lied about...well, pretty much everything in her debate: the plane, the bridge, etc. She is an idiot and he has no functional stance on anything. Reporting that isn't bias, but the opposite of bias. That is presenting the news of the day.