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CookiePie1 wrote:
JoeyC wrote:But there are only so many tests.
There are quite a few tests on the wiki, which are pretty good. Well, I guess a Google Search Couldn't hurt. There are many AP Chem and Physics tests on Google.
Besides Entropy and enthalpy, how much of thermochemistry do you think could be tested? The only thermochemistry that ever came up on tests this year were related to the definition of entropy
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Justin72835 wrote:Getting a high school physics textbook and doing the thermo problems in it should suffice. With that said, Giancoli is a great starting point for pretty much any physics event.


If Giancolli is a starting point, what would you recomend to study afterwards?
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arv101 wrote:
CookiePie1 wrote:
JoeyC wrote:But there are only so many tests.
There are quite a few tests on the wiki, which are pretty good. Well, I guess a Google Search Couldn't hurt. There are many AP Chem and Physics tests on Google.
Besides Entropy and enthalpy, how much of thermochemistry do you think could be tested? The only thermochemistry that ever came up on tests this year were related to the definition of entropy
As for me, I've never seen a thermochemistry question on a test that didn't be involve some type of entropy/enthalpy/will this reaction be spontaneous question, so it is quite unlikely that there's will be a question like that on a thermo test, but there's always that one time....
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Tfw reading through this thread can give event supervisors some ideas :P ;)
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pikachu4919 wrote:Tfw reading through this thread can give event supervisors some ideas :P ;)
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pikachu4919 wrote:Tfw reading through this thread can give event supervisors some ideas :P ;)
Like what?
Ah, mainly the kinds of questions to put on our exams :twisted:
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And also how to improve the thermo device testing rules; use syringes, increase IWB value,etc.
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JoeyC wrote:And also how to improve the thermo device testing rules; use syringes, increase IWB value,etc.
How would they improve the device testing rules? What do you not like about them?
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CookiePie1 wrote:
JoeyC wrote:And also how to improve the thermo device testing rules; use syringes, increase IWB value,etc.
How would they improve the device testing rules? What do you not like about them?
The methods of dispensing hot water, mainly
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The part that is blurriest (or most unclear) at the competitions is how to effectively test the devices and keep the water temperatures and all the other variables that are supposed to be constants, well, constant. If you have ever spammed tests of your thermodynamic insulating device at home, so as to get data points and get better predictions, you'll know that without the right equipment, it can be hard to get the water to the right temperature. It takes lots and lots of patience. At competitions they have the right equipment, but limited time, and lots of people. The proper way to test the devices is by starting a test of one device, recording the variables for that device, and then starting another device and recording the variables. Unfortunately, this isn't very effective, and quite a few times is not even carried out, leading for the thermodynamic device testing to be a bit unfair (its unavoidable). Some methods taken to remedy this included using syringes ( a shout out to those who had that ingenious idea ), having teams go up one at a time (as suggested in rule book), etc. These could and should be added in the rule book to help streamline the processes, as they are inexpensive, easy ways to improve accuracy and fairness. I'm not saying that do current rule book was half baked; I understand that the heads of SciOly tried to make it as fair as possible, I'm just saying on this forum, we've discussed a lot of things that, if added to the rule book, could help create a more organized and efficient way to do Thermo in the future.
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