Motor Sticks and Tail Booms
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Motor Sticks and Tail Booms
hello,
so i had a few questions regarding motor stick and tail boom proportions
according to the 2018-2019 rules, the wing is quite small. they never specify tail or prop sizes which leaves you room to experiment. with such a small wing, you def need a larger tail and some tweaking for motor stick & tail booms. if youre doing traditional 2 piece motor stick and tail boom, with a wing to requirement and a medium sized prop, what would be your recommendations for the motor stick/tail boom proportions? any mass recs. either for how heavy the piece should be?
so i had a few questions regarding motor stick and tail boom proportions
according to the 2018-2019 rules, the wing is quite small. they never specify tail or prop sizes which leaves you room to experiment. with such a small wing, you def need a larger tail and some tweaking for motor stick & tail booms. if youre doing traditional 2 piece motor stick and tail boom, with a wing to requirement and a medium sized prop, what would be your recommendations for the motor stick/tail boom proportions? any mass recs. either for how heavy the piece should be?
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Re: Motor Sticks and Tail Booms
Katie,
You probably saw in the rules that the airplane is required to be a monoplane and the wing is required to be the largest horizontal lifting surface at 35 cm span and 7 cm chord (my words; not official rules wording). My interpretation of the rules is that the horizontal stabilizer can be almost as large as the wing. This type of configuration is essentially a tandem, which has certain slightly different trimming and flying characteristics than a more conventional large wing, small stab.
As propeller and amount of rubber is not limited, there is a lot of room to experiment. Long rubber motors are a little easier to operate on a longish fuselage, but a long fuselage will possibly need reinforcement to avoid bowing under the tension of the motor. A shorter fuselage, like 12” can be used for a long motor, you just need to take steps to avoid knots bunching near the hooks during unwind.
You could see Bill Gowen’s plan and write-up in the Hip Pocket Aero forum for ideas. His approach is a little different than the Freedom Flight kit; either is probably competitive.
Bill’s plan includes the various densities of wood and dimensions of carbon parts.
Good questions.
Brian T
You probably saw in the rules that the airplane is required to be a monoplane and the wing is required to be the largest horizontal lifting surface at 35 cm span and 7 cm chord (my words; not official rules wording). My interpretation of the rules is that the horizontal stabilizer can be almost as large as the wing. This type of configuration is essentially a tandem, which has certain slightly different trimming and flying characteristics than a more conventional large wing, small stab.
As propeller and amount of rubber is not limited, there is a lot of room to experiment. Long rubber motors are a little easier to operate on a longish fuselage, but a long fuselage will possibly need reinforcement to avoid bowing under the tension of the motor. A shorter fuselage, like 12” can be used for a long motor, you just need to take steps to avoid knots bunching near the hooks during unwind.
You could see Bill Gowen’s plan and write-up in the Hip Pocket Aero forum for ideas. His approach is a little different than the Freedom Flight kit; either is probably competitive.
Bill’s plan includes the various densities of wood and dimensions of carbon parts.
Good questions.
Brian T
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Re: Motor Sticks and Tail Booms
Anyone using the senior flyer kit? If so what times are you guys getting with it?
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Re: Motor Sticks and Tail Booms
not yet but we might try and see what the freedom flight kits are likeDarthBuilder wrote:Anyone using the senior flyer kit? If so what times are you guys getting with it?
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Re: Motor Sticks and Tail Booms
The four teams that I am coaching have finished six of the Freedom Flight kit airplanes and have ten more partially completed and they are very good airplanes, as usual.
We are using a number of modifications, but, the unmodified design would be very competitive too.
Brian T
We are using a number of modifications, but, the unmodified design would be very competitive too.
Brian T