Mission Possible C

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Re: Mission Possible C

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mpnobivucyxtz wrote:Guys, I have a couple of questions. In my device, I have a circuit that gets completed by water. I have two components in parallel, one of which is an arduino. So when the water completes the circuit, both components are powered. However, the arduino does not do anything until later (it gets set off by the first component). There are less than 10 seconds between the completion of the circuit and the final arduino task, so I don’t think it would count as an electrical timer.

Will the battery powering both at once count as a parallel task?

Also, a battery counts as a non adjustable component, right? Can I use it for both parts without needing to set up a completely separate circuit?

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Ya I wouldn't risk it. I think powering an arduino and the other component could count as a parallel action.
Any reason to not just leave the arduino on? Then there is no risk of a parallel action
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Re: Mission Possible C

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Hm, it was because I wanted to complete the circuit with water. Would it be better if I connected the arduino in parallel with the battery and then the electromagnet in parallel, but the switch the water was acting as would be on the electromagnet branch? I know that in parallel circuits, one branch does not affect the other, so would this work?
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mpnobivucyxtz wrote:Hm, it was because I wanted to complete the circuit with water. Would it be better if I connected the arduino in parallel with the battery and then the electromagnet in parallel, but the switch the water was acting as would be on the electromagnet branch? I know that in parallel circuits, one branch does not affect the other, so would this work?
If there's no reason for the Arduino to be activated later, you may as well connect it directly to the battery and put the switch in parallel with the electromagnet.
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Re: Mission Possible C

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dragonfruit35 wrote:
If there's no reason for the Arduino to be activated later, you may as well connect it directly to the battery and put the switch in parallel with the electromagnet.
Wouldn’t this violate the electrical timer rule if my arduino is on for the entire ~60 seconds my device is running?
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mpnobivucyxtz wrote:
dragonfruit35 wrote:
If there's no reason for the Arduino to be activated later, you may as well connect it directly to the battery and put the switch in parallel with the electromagnet.
Wouldn’t this violate the electrical timer rule if my arduino is on for the entire ~60 seconds my device is running?
As long as it is not doing anything then no. If it were active for >10 seconds after you previous action ended then you would run into an issue.
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Re: Mission Possible C

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ScottMaurer19 wrote: As long as it is not doing anything then no. If it were active for >10 seconds after you previous action ended then you would run into an issue.
Wait, what if it’s sensing the electromagnet? I think there was another thread about how a sensor can’t be running for more than 10s since it’s technically activated the entire time? Has anyone successful used a sensor for longer than 10s?
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Re: Mission Possible C

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mpnobivucyxtz wrote:
ScottMaurer19 wrote: As long as it is not doing anything then no. If it were active for >10 seconds after you previous action ended then you would run into an issue.
Wait, what if it’s sensing the electromagnet? I think there was another thread about how a sensor can’t be running for more than 10s since it’s technically activated the entire time? Has anyone successful used a sensor for longer than 10s?
The FAQs continue to support the use of passive electrical sensors (except for timers) so long as they do not take longer than 10 seconds to activate the next action once triggered.
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Can you elaborate on how the FAQs support a passive electrical sensor? I have one but just in case the ES says it is an electrical timer I just wanted to have a good argument.
Edit: I saw you said except for timers. Sorry.
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Re: Mission Possible C

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nicholasmaurer wrote:
mpnobivucyxtz wrote:
ScottMaurer19 wrote: As long as it is not doing anything then no. If it were active for >10 seconds after you previous action ended then you would run into an issue.
Wait, what if it’s sensing the electromagnet? I think there was another thread about how a sensor can’t be running for more than 10s since it’s technically activated the entire time? Has anyone successful used a sensor for longer than 10s?
The FAQs continue to support the use of passive electrical sensors (except for timers) so long as they do not take longer than 10 seconds to activate the next action once triggered.
would it be legal to have the the sensor on before running the device?
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Re: Mission Possible C

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would putting a couple of 9v batteries in parallel counts as 1 battery source?
Also is it ok to use the small batteries from the recording devices because they are not labeled
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