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John Richardsim wrote:. I looked at the raw scores from 2013 nationals to see which teams went for IWB. Generally, most teams that did IWB were in the top 20 or 30. However, I'm assuming these teams did well because they had spent enough time with their devices to feel confident in going for it, not that actually going for it had that much of an effect.
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JoeyC wrote:Alright, now that I've studied enough to competent, what type of thermo question is the hardest (assuming you have appropriate notes and a decent knowledge of AP Physics II covering fluid dynamics and thermodynamics). I believe it could be the calculation problems, but as long as you understand what to use in your equations and keep a close, close, close eye on those units, you'll usually be fine. Meanwhile history can be hard because history is big, and even though you have infinite notes (unless you find a way to fill up a 3 ring binder :) ) it can be hard to find those specific facts. What do you guys think? Is one specific type of question harder, or are they of equal difficulty if you came prepared?
I guess calculation problems are harder than history because it can get complicated once it reaches a very high level. But i guess for the event history is harder because the calculations are all pretty easy but for history as you said it can be hard to find those specific facts.
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JoeyC wrote:Alright, now that I've studied enough to competent, what type of thermo question is the hardest (assuming you have appropriate notes and a decent knowledge of AP Physics II covering fluid dynamics and thermodynamics). I believe it could be the calculation problems, but as long as you understand what to use in your equations and keep a close, close, close eye on those units, you'll usually be fine. Meanwhile history can be hard because history is big, and even though you have infinite notes (unless you find a way to fill up a 3 ring binder :) ) it can be hard to find those specific facts. What do you guys think? Is one specific type of question harder, or are they of equal difficulty if you came prepared?
I feel that it would be easier to cover all the calculation questions in your binder, since the rules prevent the questions from being too obscure. History questions can be very obscure, and if you don't have it in your binder there is no way you can answer the question without guessing.
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ElPotato wrote:
JoeyC wrote:Alright, now that I've studied enough to competent, what type of thermo question is the hardest (assuming you have appropriate notes and a decent knowledge of AP Physics II covering fluid dynamics and thermodynamics). I believe it could be the calculation problems, but as long as you understand what to use in your equations and keep a close, close, close eye on those units, you'll usually be fine. Meanwhile history can be hard because history is big, and even though you have infinite notes (unless you find a way to fill up a 3 ring binder :) ) it can be hard to find those specific facts. What do you guys think? Is one specific type of question harder, or are they of equal difficulty if you came prepared?
I feel that it would be easier to cover all the calculation questions in your binder, since the rules prevent the questions from being too obscure. History questions can be very obscure, and if you don't have it in your binder there is no way you can answer the question without guessing.
A lot of the practice tests have history questions in them. After all, the rules do include history questions. There is a lot of info on the wiki, so it shouldn't be too terrible.
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MattChina wrote:
JoeyC wrote:Alright, now that I've studied enough to competent, what type of thermo question is the hardest (assuming you have appropriate notes and a decent knowledge of AP Physics II covering fluid dynamics and thermodynamics). I believe it could be the calculation problems, but as long as you understand what to use in your equations and keep a close, close, close eye on those units, you'll usually be fine. Meanwhile history can be hard because history is big, and even though you have infinite notes (unless you find a way to fill up a 3 ring binder :) ) it can be hard to find those specific facts. What do you guys think? Is one specific type of question harder, or are they of equal difficulty if you came prepared?
I guess calculation problems are harder than history because it can get complicated once it reaches a very high level. But i guess for the event history is harder because the calculations are all pretty easy but for history as you said it can be hard to find those specific facts.
Does anyone know where I can learn these "hard problems". I've studied Khan Academy but it is not enough what other resources should I look at?
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arv101 wrote:
MattChina wrote:
JoeyC wrote:Alright, now that I've studied enough to competent, what type of thermo question is the hardest (assuming you have appropriate notes and a decent knowledge of AP Physics II covering fluid dynamics and thermodynamics). I believe it could be the calculation problems, but as long as you understand what to use in your equations and keep a close, close, close eye on those units, you'll usually be fine. Meanwhile history can be hard because history is big, and even though you have infinite notes (unless you find a way to fill up a 3 ring binder :) ) it can be hard to find those specific facts. What do you guys think? Is one specific type of question harder, or are they of equal difficulty if you came prepared?
I guess calculation problems are harder than history because it can get complicated once it reaches a very high level. But i guess for the event history is harder because the calculations are all pretty easy but for history as you said it can be hard to find those specific facts.
Does anyone know where I can learn these "hard problems". I've studied Khan Academy but it is not enough what other resources should I look at?
Maybe look at some old physics textbooks or just search online for problems.
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arv101 wrote:
MattChina wrote:
JoeyC wrote:Alright, now that I've studied enough to competent, what type of thermo question is the hardest (assuming you have appropriate notes and a decent knowledge of AP Physics II covering fluid dynamics and thermodynamics). I believe it could be the calculation problems, but as long as you understand what to use in your equations and keep a close, close, close eye on those units, you'll usually be fine. Meanwhile history can be hard because history is big, and even though you have infinite notes (unless you find a way to fill up a 3 ring binder :) ) it can be hard to find those specific facts. What do you guys think? Is one specific type of question harder, or are they of equal difficulty if you came prepared?
I guess calculation problems are harder than history because it can get complicated once it reaches a very high level. But i guess for the event history is harder because the calculations are all pretty easy but for history as you said it can be hard to find those specific facts.
Does anyone know where I can learn these "hard problems". I've studied Khan Academy but it is not enough what other resources should I look at?
Well, since you are in division B, you can go on test exchange and do the division C practice tests
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But there are only so many tests.
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JoeyC wrote:But there are only so many tests.
There are quite a few tests on the wiki, which are pretty good. Well, I guess a Google Search Couldn't hurt. There are many AP Chem and Physics tests on Google.
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Getting a high school physics textbook and doing the thermo problems in it should suffice. With that said, Giancoli is a great starting point for pretty much any physics event.
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