I think the two-part configuration dictated by this year’s rules is a major barrier to competitiveness of a tubular leg approach. Last year, with straight legs, I think it could have been done to … a fairly competitive level. I saw some info from a team experimenting with a 3 tubular leg design, and did some calcs from our design spreadsheets for booms, and concluded a…low 7gr C tower (meeting 29cm circle bonus) might be possible.
The issues/challenges are bracing, and the joint where upper and lower leg segments join. Bracing a ‘stick’ leg only involves glueing a brace piece onto a flat leg face. Bracing a tube requires an insert inside the tube; You can’t just brace on the tube wall. The insert can be of pretty low density, but needs to be fully bonded to the inside of the tube…all the way around. A bit tricky to get in the right place, and glue weight not….out of control.
So, at a minimum, you’d need tension brace/tension strap (strong enough to carry something over 2kg) around the base leg ends, a set of ladders at the base section/chimney section joint (strong enough to carry something over 2kg compression), and a ladder at the top. That’s inserts in top and bottom end of both leg segments. The other really tricky part is cut angle on the leg segment ends where upper and lower meet. Critical that tube walls be perfectly aligned. With base legs at a significant angle, and upper legs at a very small angle, what happens if you cut on a plane parallel to the testing base? The exposed cross section of the bottom of the upper leg is close to circular, very slight oval. The exposed cross section of the top of the bottom leg segment is a significantly elongated oval. Put the two together, and the walls only meet up at two points (across the short axis of both ovals). It would take a…pretty massive insert both sides of that joint to ‘work.’
How much does grain matter in terms of stretch?
Jump to
- Welcome to the 2023 Season!
- Event Forums
- ↳ Build Events
- ↳ Bridge B/C
- ↳ Detector Building C
- ↳ Flight B/C
- ↳ Mission Possible C [TRIAL]
- ↳ Roller Coaster B
- ↳ Scrambler C
- ↳ Storm the Castle B/Trajectory C
- ↳ Wheeled Vehicle B
- ↳ Lab Events
- ↳ It's About Time C
- ↳ Sounds of Music B
- ↳ WiFi Lab C
- ↳ Study Events
- ↳ Trial Events
- ↳ Question Marathons
- Competition Forums
- ↳ General Competition
- ↳ SSSS & SMEC
- ↳ Invitationals
- ↳ Regionals & States
- ↳ Nationals
- ↳ Alumni
- Off-Topic Forums
- ↳ General Chat
- ↳ Posting Games
- ↳ Assassinator Games
- ↳ The Polling Place
- Administrative
- ↳ Announcements
- ↳ Feedback
- Team Forums
- ↳ How to get an (invisible) team forum
- Archives
- ↳ Old Board - 2001-2008
- ↳ 2009
- ↳ 2009 Build Events
- ↳ 2009 Lab Events
- ↳ 2009 Study Events
- ↳ 2009 Invitationals, Regionals, and States
- ↳ 2009 Nationals
- ↳ 2010
- ↳ 2010 Build Events
- ↳ Wright Stuff B
- ↳ Mission Possible C
- ↳ 2010 Lab Events
- ↳ 2010 Study Events
- ↳ 2010 Invitationals, Regionals, and States
- ↳ 2010 Nationals
- ↳ 2011
- ↳ 2011 Build Events
- ↳ Towers B/C
- ↳ Mission Possible C
- ↳ Helicopters C
- ↳ 2011 Lab Events
- ↳ 2011 Study Events
- ↳ 2011 Invitationals, Regionals, and States
- ↳ 2011 Nationals
- ↳ 2012
- ↳ 2012 Build Events
- ↳ Helicopters C
- ↳ Mission Possible B
- ↳ Towers B/C
- ↳ 2012 Lab Events
- ↳ 2012 Study Events
- ↳ 2012 Nationals
- ↳ 2013
- ↳ 2013 Build Events
- ↳ Helicopters B
- ↳ Boomilever B/C
- ↳ Mission Possible B
- ↳ 2013 Lab Events
- ↳ 2013 Study Events
- ↳ 2013 Invitationals, Regionals, and States
- ↳ 2013 Nationals
- ↳ 2013 News
- ↳ 2014
- ↳ 2014 Build Events
- ↳ 2014 Lab Events
- ↳ 2014 Study Events
- ↳ 2014 Question Marathons
- ↳ 2014 Invitationals, Regionals, and States
- ↳ 2014 Nationals
- ↳ 2014 News
- ↳ 2015
- ↳ 2015 Build Events
- ↳ Bridge Building B/C
- ↳ Mission Possible C
- ↳ Wright Stuff C
- ↳ 2015 Lab Events
- ↳ 2015 Study Events
- ↳ 2015 Question Marathons
- ↳ Question Marathons Explained
- ↳ 2015 Invitationals, Regionals, and States
- ↳ 2015 Competition Advertising
- ↳ 2015 Nationals
- ↳ 2015 News
- ↳ 2016
- ↳ 2016 Build Events
- ↳ Air Trajectory B/C
- ↳ Bridge Building B/C
- ↳ Elastic Launch Glider B
- ↳ Electric Vehicle C
- ↳ Mission Possible B
- ↳ Robot Arm C
- ↳ Wright Stuff C
- ↳ 2016 Lab Events
- ↳ Wind Power B/C
- ↳ 2016 Study Events
- ↳ 2016 Question Marathons
- ↳ 2016 Invitationals, Regionals, and States
- ↳ 2016 Competition Advertising
- ↳ 2016 Nationals
- ↳ 2016 News
- ↳ 2017
- ↳ 2017 Build Events
- ↳ Bottle Rocket B
- ↳ Electric Vehicle C
- ↳ Helicopters C
- ↳ Mission Possible B
- ↳ Robot Arm C
- ↳ Scrambler B
- ↳ Towers B/C
- ↳ Wright Stuff B
- ↳ Hovercraft B/C
- ↳ 2017 Lab Events
- ↳ 2017 Study Events
- ↳ 2017 Question Marathons
- ↳ 2017 Invitationals, Regionals, and States
- ↳ 2017 Competition Advertising
- ↳ 2017 Nationals
- ↳ 2018
- ↳ 2018 Build Events
- ↳ Battery Buggy B
- ↳ Helicopters C
- ↳ Mission Possible C
- ↳ Mousetrap Vehicle C
- ↳ Roller Coaster B
- ↳ Towers B/C
- ↳ Wright Stuff B
- ↳ 2018 Lab Events
- ↳ 2018 Study Events
- ↳ 2018 Question Marathons
- ↳ 2018 Invitationals
- ↳ 2018 Regionals & States
- ↳ 2018 Nationals
- ↳ 2019
- ↳ 2019 Build Events
- ↳ Battery Buggy B
- ↳ Boomilever B/C
- ↳ Elastic Launched Gliders B
- ↳ Mission Possible C
- ↳ Mousetrap Vehicle C
- ↳ Roller Coaster B
- ↳ Wright Stuff C
- ↳ 2019 Lab Events
- ↳ Thermodynamics B/C
- ↳ 2019 Study Events
- ↳ 2019 Question Marathons
- ↳ 2019 Invitationals
- ↳ 2019 Regionals & States
- ↳ 2019 Nationals
- ↳ 2020
- ↳ 2020 Build Events
- ↳ Boomilever B/C
- ↳ Detector Building C
- ↳ Elastic Launched Glider B
- ↳ Gravity Vehicle C
- ↳ Mission Possible B
- ↳ Mousetrap Vehicle B
- ↳ Ping Pong Parachute B/C
- ↳ Wright Stuff C
- ↳ 2020 Lab Events
- ↳ Machines B/C
- ↳ Protein Modeling C
- ↳ 2020 Study Events
- ↳ 2020 Question Marathons
- ↳ 2020 Invitationals
- ↳ 2020 Regionals & States
- ↳ 2020 Nationals
- ↳ 2021
- ↳ 2021 Build Events
- ↳ Boomilever B/C
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Boomilever B/C (2020)
- ↳ Digital Structures B/C [mini SO, Satellite SO]
- ↳ Detector Building C
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Detector Building C (2020)
- ↳ Elastic Launched Glider B
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Elastic Launched Glider B (2020)
- ↳ Gravity Vehicle C
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Gravity Vehicle C (2020)
- ↳ Helicopters B/C [Possible mini SO, Satellite SO Replacement]
- ↳ Mission Possible B
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Mission Possible B (2020)
- ↳ Mousetrap Vehicle B
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Mousetrap Vehicle B (2020)
- ↳ Ping Pong Parachute B/C
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Ping Pong Parachute B/C (2020)
- ↳ Wright Stuff C
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Wright Stuff C (2020)
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Build Events (2020)
- ↳ 2021 Lab Events
- ↳ Machines B/C
- ↳ Protein Modeling C
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Lab Events (2020)
- ↳ 2021 Study Events
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Study Events (2020)
- ↳ 2021 Question Marathons
- ↳ Link to Forum From Previous Season: Question Marathons (2020)
- ↳ 2021 Invitationals
- ↳ 2021 Regionals & States
- ↳ 2021 Nationals
- ↳ 2022
- ↳ 2022 Build Events
- ↳ Bridge B/C
- ↳ Detector Building C
- ↳ Electric Wright Stuff B
- ↳ Gravity Vehicle C
- ↳ Mission Possible B
- ↳ Mousetrap Vehicle B
- ↳ Storm the Castle B/Trajectory C
- ↳ Ping Pong Parachute B/C
- ↳ Wright Stuff C
- ↳ 2022 Lab Events
- ↳ WiFi Lab C
- ↳ 2022 Study Events
- ↳ 2022 Question Marathons
- ↳ 2022 Invitationals
- ↳ 2022 Regionals & States
- ↳ 2022 Nationals
- Miscellaneous
- ↳ Template: Visible, Topics Disabled, Replies Enabled, Increment Enabled
- ↳ Template: Visible, Topics/Replies Enabled, Increment Enabled, Attachments
- ↳ Template: Visible, Topics/Replies Enabled, Increment Disabled
- ↳ Template: Visible, Topics Approval, Replies Disabled, Increment Disabled (Polls)
- ↳ Template: Visible, Posting Disabled (Locked)