There's a really good pigeon skeleton that comes up when you google bird skeleton. I use that one. It's already labeled, but you have to check and make sure you know the different names for some of the bones. You don't know which one your proctor will use, but you can put both. And teams do get those right, especially at state, which is why you need to study them.fossilgirl13 wrote:I was wondering if anyone knows of a good way to study bird skeletons. I have memorized 184 birds and their orders, all those bird calls,and I don't know how to study bird skeletons. States are coming up soon and I need answers!!!!!!!!!!
Also, does anyone even get those questions right?
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Also, on soinc.org, on the Ornithology training handout and PowerPoint, there are a few pictures of bird skeletons.courage7856 wrote:There's a really good pigeon skeleton that comes up when you google bird skeleton. I use that one. It's already labeled, but you have to check and make sure you know the different names for some of the bones. You don't know which one your proctor will use, but you can put both. And teams do get those right, especially at state, which is why you need to study them.fossilgirl13 wrote:I was wondering if anyone knows of a good way to study bird skeletons. I have memorized 184 birds and their orders, all those bird calls,and I don't know how to study bird skeletons. States are coming up soon and I need answers!!!!!!!!!!
Also, does anyone even get those questions right?
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I was also wondering if there was any good way to study the silhouettes of birds (because that happened upon our state test)
and for nationals, how fast would the test be (asking those out there who've been there, and know the schedule/other useful info for the big day)
and for nationals, how fast would the test be (asking those out there who've been there, and know the schedule/other useful info for the big day)
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For the silhouettes, in my field guide, it has some in the front cover that are identified.
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I thin silhouettes are in petersons, but not sibleys... the best way may be to learn them be genus or family, for example, many buteos have a similar silhouettes
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They're in the back of the Peterson's - shows shore, flight, and roadside silhouettes for different birds.kjhsscioly wrote:I thin silhouettes are in petersons, but not sibleys... the best way may be to learn them be genus or family, for example, many buteos have a similar silhouettes
Does anyone know how reliable these are (like should I go search for extra images or are these accurate enough?)
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I agree that the best way to learn them would be by family or genus. If you tried to learn the silhouettes of every single species, it would totally overload your brain and probably not be that useful. If you learn by larger groups, however, you can see that the silhouette is of a duck (or whatever it is on your test) and then go into your guide from there and look at the entries for the ducks (or whatever) and narrow it down from there.kjhsscioly wrote:I thin silhouettes are in petersons, but not sibleys... the best way may be to learn them be genus or family, for example, many buteos have a similar silhouettes
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i took the state south california and got 5th, and since the question about what r the function of these birds legs didnt make since we probably would have got a medal otherwise... does that mean feet? legs aren't really for anything...
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Well, legs are obviously for something. I mean, if you didn't have legs, you'd probably have some issues.sciencegeek100 wrote:i took the state south california and got 5th, and since the question about what r the function of these birds legs didnt make since we probably would have got a medal otherwise... does that mean feet? legs aren't really for anything...

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