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Inclined Plane

Posted: December 24th, 2015, 5:53 pm
by as_ap
In the rules, it says that for inclined planes and object has to be pulled or pushed up the plane at least 10 cm. When it says up, does it have to move upwards or can it move either way?
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Re: Inclined Plane

Posted: December 25th, 2015, 3:49 pm
by fuddermuffin777
The object can move either way, so don't worry! Hope this clarifies things. :D

Re: Inclined Plane

Posted: December 26th, 2015, 6:22 am
by Zyfenhinger
fudder - where are you getting clarification that either way is ok? The rules clearly state that it must be pushed or pulled "up".

Re: Inclined Plane

Posted: December 26th, 2015, 8:08 am
by Unome
Judging by the rules, I would say that the object needs to be pulled up. Note that any opinions expressed here are unofficial; if you want an official response, you should submit a FAQ.

Re: Inclined Plane

Posted: December 26th, 2015, 9:07 am
by reed303
Unome wrote:Judging by the rules, I would say that the object needs to be pulled up. Note that any opinions expressed here are unofficial; if you want an official response, you should submit a FAQ.
ISTM the existing Rules Clarification dated 10/13/15 at https://www.soinc.org/official_rules_clarif that states:
"Mission Possible B: 4.d.iii. first sentence should read "Inclined Planes must be stationary and have an object pushed or pulled at least 10cm up and along the surface of the inclined plane to count for points.(10/13/15)" clearly allows pushing or pulling, and only in the upward direction.

Re: Inclined Plane

Posted: April 10th, 2016, 2:51 pm
by DankMcIntosh
GUYS! IDK if it's too late, but all IPs must be pulled UP!!! Learned that the hard way. I suggest using a pulley with an IMA of 2-3 to have enough power to be pulled up. I speak from personal experience, and quote the MisPo official at IDSO.

Re: Inclined Plane

Posted: April 10th, 2016, 3:46 pm
by Unome
DankMcIntosh wrote:GUYS! IDK if it's too late, but all IPs must be pulled UP!!! Learned that the hard way. I suggest using a pulley with an IMA of 2-3 to have enough power to be pulled up. I speak from personal experience, and quote the MisPo official at IDSO.
I'm not that familiar with Mission, but I think this is exactly what the post before you (from several months ago) stated, along with the relevant FAQ.

Re: Inclined Plane

Posted: April 10th, 2016, 4:02 pm
by DankMcIntosh
Unome wrote:
DankMcIntosh wrote:GUYS! IDK if it's too late, but all IPs must be pulled UP!!! Learned that the hard way. I suggest using a pulley with an IMA of 2-3 to have enough power to be pulled up. I speak from personal experience, and quote the MisPo official at IDSO.
I'm not that familiar with Mission, but I think this is exactly what the post before you (from several months ago) stated, along with the relevant FAQ.
Yea, but it was uncertain - we got OFFICIAL review that DIRECTLY stated that it needs to be PULLED UP.

Re: Inclined Plane

Posted: April 10th, 2016, 5:39 pm
by Unome
DankMcIntosh wrote:
Unome wrote:
DankMcIntosh wrote:GUYS! IDK if it's too late, but all IPs must be pulled UP!!! Learned that the hard way. I suggest using a pulley with an IMA of 2-3 to have enough power to be pulled up. I speak from personal experience, and quote the MisPo official at IDSO.
I'm not that familiar with Mission, but I think this is exactly what the post before you (from several months ago) stated, along with the relevant FAQ.
Yea, but it was uncertain - we got OFFICIAL review that DIRECTLY stated that it needs to be PULLED UP.
If I'm reading your post correctly, you got an official opinion that is only applicable within the state of Idaho, within which all competitions have finished. Even if the person you asked happened to be the national event supervisor for Mission, this would not be an official opinion nationally (although that would mean that it would likely be that way at nationals).

Re: Inclined Plane

Posted: April 11th, 2016, 1:18 pm
by sciolyFTW_aku
Follow what the rule states: the object must go up and along the surface of the inclined plane 10 cm.