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What to impound?

Posted: March 30th, 2011, 7:59 am
by ericbro
Do we need to impound the baloon? Helium? Our device uses ice water. Does that need to be impounded?

Re: What to impound?

Posted: March 30th, 2011, 9:01 am
by courage7856
Anything and everything you plan on using has to be impounded. Everything. My team and I have a shoebox that we put in everything we might need, like extra vinegar and baking soda, clothespins and paperclips to modify weights, and extra balloons.

Re: What to impound?

Posted: March 30th, 2011, 12:14 pm
by illusionist
^
That's exactly what we did too. Absolutely EVERY single item was impounded with the device, in two shoeboxes. For your ice water, you could put them in an insulator or something to keep them cold, and also impound that.

Re: What to impound?

Posted: March 30th, 2011, 2:55 pm
by Primate
illusionist wrote:^
That's exactly what we did too. Absolutely EVERY single item was impounded with the device, in two shoeboxes. For your ice water, you could put them in an insulator or something to keep them cold, and also impound that.
If the competition is an overnight impound, like the NY state competition, ice water is just asking for trouble. Have you looked at the temperature task thread?

Beg for an early time, otherwise.

Re: What to impound?

Posted: March 30th, 2011, 2:57 pm
by aubrey048
Primate wrote:
illusionist wrote:^
That's exactly what we did too. Absolutely EVERY single item was impounded with the device, in two shoeboxes. For your ice water, you could put them in an insulator or something to keep them cold, and also impound that.
If the competition is an overnight impound, like the NY state competition, ice water is just asking for trouble. Have you looked at the temperature task thread?
There are overnight impounds? Ours'll usually just have us turn in our items by 9:30. How odd.

Re: What to impound?

Posted: March 30th, 2011, 3:03 pm
by Primate
aubrey048 wrote:
Primate wrote:
illusionist wrote:^
That's exactly what we did too. Absolutely EVERY single item was impounded with the device, in two shoeboxes. For your ice water, you could put them in an insulator or something to keep them cold, and also impound that.
If the competition is an overnight impound, like the NY state competition, ice water is just asking for trouble. Have you looked at the temperature task thread?
There are overnight impounds? Ours'll usually just have us turn in our items by 9:30. How odd.
Yeah, having fifty teams trying to impound things on Saturday morning is a huge hassle, so we have a few hours on Friday to drop stuff off. It's no big deal for most events, but it's a huge problem for many teams in regards to Mission. The 30 minutes of set-up is actually during impound, which is at least 16 hours before the devices are run.

Re: What to impound?

Posted: March 30th, 2011, 3:31 pm
by illusionist
The early impound I can understand, but including the set up time in the impound?!?!?!? In my opinion, that's absurd. Teams are almost disabled from using anything cold to do the temperature task...

Re: What to impound?

Posted: March 30th, 2011, 5:07 pm
by Primate
illusionist wrote:The early impound I can understand, but including the set up time in the impound?!?!?!? In my opinion, that's absurd. Teams are almost disabled from using anything cold to do the temperature task...
Exactly. Prior competitors in NY know enough now to design devices that can last for half a day, but it's often disastrous for newcomer (read: everyone last year). I suppose you could use an instant cold pack and set it up the following day (you get another few minutes), but you're out of luck if with ice water.

Battery-powered minifridges, anyone?

Re: What to impound?

Posted: March 31st, 2011, 3:00 pm
by sj
Or use a cooler Full of ice...

Some melts by the next day and... INSTANT ICE WATER!!!! :D

Our cooler keeps our ice unmelted for 3 - 4 days.

Re: What to impound?

Posted: March 31st, 2011, 4:18 pm
by lllazar
I was just going to suggest that SJ^