When do the rules for scioly events usually first come out (2020)

[Nba2302]

It will be my second year in scioly after this summer, so I'm curious when it usually comes out so I can study a little bit beforehand

[Umaroth]

It will be my second year in scioly after this summer, so I'm curious when it usually comes out so I can study a little bit beforehand

Typically day after Labor Day I believe

[Name]

Or drafts two weeks ago which are almost the same thing but you can't get them unless you go to sosi so that only teams that can go get a huge unfair advantage ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[TheCrazyChemist]

Or drafts two weeks ago which are almost the same thing but you can't get them unless you go to sosi so that only teams that can go get a huge unfair advantage ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You do realize that it isn't exactly easy to go to SOSI. Especially for teams who are from the Northeast. Going to SOSI is sort of like a show of how committed the team and coaches are to scioly, because it's not exactly easy to go to Phoenix from let's say, New York City. In a sense, you have to really want that advantage.

[Name]

Or drafts two weeks ago which are almost the same thing but you can't get them unless you go to sosi so that only teams that can go get a huge unfair advantage ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You do realize that it isn't exactly easy to go to SOSI. Especially for teams who are from the Northeast. Going to SOSI is sort of like a show of how committed the team and coaches are to scioly, because it's not exactly easy to go to Phoenix from let's say, New York City. In a sense, you have to really want that advantage.

That is my point. It's not fair giving an advantage to only those who can go. They're teams get a head start on everything while I don't even know the topics of all of my events for sure.

[windu34]

Or drafts two weeks ago which are almost the same thing but you can't get them unless you go to sosi so that only teams that can go get a huge unfair advantage ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You do realize that it isn't exactly easy to go to SOSI. Especially for teams who are from the Northeast. Going to SOSI is sort of like a show of how committed the team and coaches are to scioly, because it's not exactly easy to go to Phoenix from let's say, New York City. In a sense, you have to really want that advantage.

That is my point. It's not fair giving an advantage to only those who can go. They're teams get a head start on everything while I don't even know the topics of all of my events for sure.

Honestly, I dont really think there is that big of an advantage. For most events, you probably already could figure out what you should be studying. For build events, the foundational skills are transferable even if your initial device is out of spec. There is really no reason you couldnt start working on any of the events without the draft rules IMO. If you need an example, just name the event and Ill tell you what you should be studying/building/practicing.
E.g. Ping Pong Parachute: Just look at the NC draft rules and pretend those are the real rules. The principals of the event will not change a whole lot - if you master the principles of design, you will easily be able to modify to fit the specs when official rules come out.

[Name]

You do realize that it isn't exactly easy to go to SOSI. Especially for teams who are from the Northeast. Going to SOSI is sort of like a show of how committed the team and coaches are to scioly, because it's not exactly easy to go to Phoenix from let's say, New York City. In a sense, you have to really want that advantage.

That is my point. It's not fair giving an advantage to only those who can go. They're teams get a head start on everything while I don't even know the topics of all of my events for sure.

Honestly, I dont really think there is that big of an advantage. For most events, you probably already could figure out what you should be studying. For build events, the foundational skills are transferable even if your initial device is out of spec. There is really no reason you couldnt start working on any of the events without the draft rules IMO. If you need an example, just name the event and Ill tell you what you should be studying/building/practicing.
E.g. Ping Pong Parachute: Just look at the NC draft rules and pretend those are the real rules. The principals of the event will not change a whole lot - if you master the principles of design, you will easily be able to modify to fit the specs when official rules come out.

The point really isn't there's a huge advantage- only that giving any team an advantage over others is unfair.
Also it definitely depends on event. For me code is totally fine without drafts. Ornithology doesn't matter too much, I can still do work at the risk of large chucks of it being pointless, but Astro is where it becomes a bigger problem. I'm realitivly familiar with the general knowledge, and while I can work on that, the majority of work I need to do, I can't do. I don't even know the topic for sure, much less the DSOs. Of course I can do everything I wasn't able to cover without rules after rules release, I'd just prefer to do it now when I have more time so everything is done on time and not rushed.

[sciolyperson1]

You do realize that it isn't exactly easy to go to SOSI. Especially for teams who are from the Northeast. Going to SOSI is sort of like a show of how committed the team and coaches are to scioly, because it's not exactly easy to go to Phoenix from let's say, New York City. In a sense, you have to really want that advantage.

That is my point. It's not fair giving an advantage to only those who can go. They're teams get a head start on everything while I don't even know the topics of all of my events for sure.

Honestly, I dont really think there is that big of an advantage. For most events, you probably already could figure out what you should be studying. For build events, the foundational skills are transferable even if your initial device is out of spec. There is really no reason you couldnt start working on any of the events without the draft rules IMO. If you need an example, just name the event and Ill tell you what you should be studying/building/practicing.
E.g. Ping Pong Parachute: Just look at the NC draft rules and pretend those are the real rules. The principals of the event will not change a whole lot - if you master the principles of design, you will easily be able to modify to fit the specs when official rules come out.

Gravity Vehicle (C) - Socal States 2019
Detector Building (C) - Nats 2019, Socal States 2019
Mission Possible (B) - 2017 B
Mousetrap Vehicle (B) - 2018 C
PPP (B/C) - Indoor Bottle Rocket NJ States 2019

[MTV<=>Operator]

Are people who have the draft rules allowed to tell others what is on them? (I know they can't be posted here) I have been making plans and designs for some of the build events, but given that Gravity Vehicle seems to be more labor intensive than Mousetrap and Detector Building is a completely new event, it would really help to know the size restrictions, scoring, etc. The main things I am concerned about are:
- Whether or not ramp height is included in gravity vehicle scoring this year
- What is being measured by the device in Detector Building (Temperature, a combination of values, or something else)