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Predictions for Nationals

Posted: September 25th, 2017, 12:24 pm
by Snarknado
Any ideas on the kinds of scores needed to be competitive on the state and national levels?

Re: Predictions for Nationals

Posted: September 25th, 2017, 12:38 pm
by Unome
I'd expect 1400 will do very well at Nationals. States - depends. You would probably have a really good shot at a medal in WA with ~1000.

Re: Predictions for Nationals

Posted: September 25th, 2017, 12:52 pm
by ScottMaurer19
Unome wrote:I'd expect 1400 will do very well at Nationals. States - depends. You would probably have a really good shot at a medal in WA with ~1000.
I'm predicting the top nats scores will be around 1600.

Re: Predictions for Nationals

Posted: September 27th, 2017, 1:53 pm
by Ashernoel
ScottMaurer19 wrote:
Unome wrote:I'd expect 1400 will do very well at Nationals. States - depends. You would probably have a really good shot at a medal in WA with ~1000.
I'm predicting the top nats scores will be around 1600.
And I’m predicting you’ll get it ;)

Re: Predictions for Nationals

Posted: September 27th, 2017, 2:04 pm
by ScottMaurer19
Ashernoel wrote:
ScottMaurer19 wrote:
Unome wrote:I'd expect 1400 will do very well at Nationals. States - depends. You would probably have a really good shot at a medal in WA with ~1000.
I'm predicting the top nats scores will be around 1600.
And I’m predicting you’ll get it ;)
Thanks! That's my hope (not sure how realistic that goal is though). If I can score that high it scares me what other people may come up with.

Re: Predictions for Nationals

Posted: September 27th, 2017, 4:40 pm
by raxu
Not sure if it's posted anywhere, but a somewhat-accurate breakdown of a close-to-ideal MP score:

Start, scorable, final task: 950
Perfect ASL and setup: 150
Battery Bonus: 100
Dimension Bonus: 100 (30 * 25 * 25 device may be possible...? I am just guessing.)
Target time 120s, run for 120s: 240
Chemical Timer run for 90s (30s for the rest): 120

This gets 1660. There is probably something I'm missing to push points slightly higher to 1700, but 1600 is a really good score.

Re: Predictions for Nationals

Posted: September 27th, 2017, 7:42 pm
by Ashernoel
raxu wrote:Not sure if it's posted anywhere, but a somewhat-accurate breakdown of a close-to-ideal MP score:

Start, scorable, final task: 950
Perfect ASL and setup: 150
Battery Bonus: 100
Dimension Bonus: 100 (30 * 25 * 25 device may be possible...? I am just guessing.)
Target time 120s, run for 120s: 240
Chemical Timer run for 90s (30s for the rest): 120

This gets 1660. There is probably something I'm missing to push points slightly higher to 1700, but 1600 is a really good score.
just thinking about getting everything perfect is stressful and scary.....................

Re: Predictions for Nationals

Posted: January 12th, 2018, 6:48 pm
by PM2017
raxu wrote:Not sure if it's posted anywhere, but a somewhat-accurate breakdown of a close-to-ideal MP score:

Start, scorable, final task: 950
Perfect ASL and setup: 150
Battery Bonus: 100
Dimension Bonus: 100 (30 * 25 * 25 device may be possible...? I am just guessing.)
Target time 120s, run for 120s: 240
Chemical Timer run for 90s (30s for the rest): 120

This gets 1660. There is probably something I'm missing to push points slightly higher to 1700, but 1600 is a really good score.
I just calculated this. I think that the perfectly perfect score would be even higher than that, assuming the loophole of running the chemical clock for as close to three minutes as possible works.
-All tasks: 950
-ASL/Setup: 150
-Battery: 100
-Dimension Bonus: 135 (if you google volume of a cube given diagonal, and input 20, you get 1539.6. The square root of this is 11.55. However, fitting everything in an 11.55 cm sided cube would be insane, so I'll be "generous" and say 15 cm. 3*(60-15) = 3*45 = 135)
-Target Time: 63 (assuming 120 seconds, if you use the chemical clock to run as close to 3 minutes as possible, which I assumed to get to 2 min 57 seconds, you get a penalty of 57. 120 -57 = 63)
-Chemical Clock: 324 (I assumed 15 seconds for all nonchemical clock actions, and 2 minutes and 57 seconds for total time. This yields 162 seconds of chemical clock. Multiply by two to get 324.)

Total: 1722 (If you assume that you can somehow fit everything in the 11.6 cm sided cube, then 1732.2)