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Low IMA Pulley Task

Posted: September 5th, 2017, 9:18 am
by Unome
See rule 4.b.viii for details.

A single moveable pulley would probably work, though it would need a heavy counterweight (greater than 1 kg, even without accounting for inefficiency). It could be anchored to the high IMA pulley system (one of them triggering the other).

Re: Low IMA Pulley Task

Posted: September 5th, 2017, 11:36 am
by ScottMaurer19
Unome wrote:See rule 4.b.viii for details.

A single moveable pulley would probably work, though it would need a heavy counterweight (greater than 1 kg, even without accounting for inefficiency). It could be anchored to the high IMA pulley system (one of them triggering the other).
Wouldn't that still have an IMA of 1?

Re: Low IMA Pulley Task

Posted: September 5th, 2017, 11:38 am
by Unome
ScottMaurer19 wrote:
Unome wrote:See rule 4.b.viii for details.

A single moveable pulley would probably work, though it would need a heavy counterweight (greater than 1 kg, even without accounting for inefficiency). It could be anchored to the high IMA pulley system (one of them triggering the other).
Wouldn't that still have an IMA of 1?
No, half the force comes from the free rope, the other half from the anchored rope. Example

Re: Low IMA Pulley Task

Posted: September 5th, 2017, 11:47 am
by ScottMaurer19
Unome wrote:
ScottMaurer19 wrote:
Unome wrote:See rule 4.b.viii for details.

A single moveable pulley would probably work, though it would need a heavy counterweight (greater than 1 kg, even without accounting for inefficiency). It could be anchored to the high IMA pulley system (one of them triggering the other).
Wouldn't that still have an IMA of 1?
No, half the force comes from the free rope, the other half from the anchored rope. Example
I know very little about physics but all of the diagrams that look like that online say that the same set up has a IMA of 2

Re: Low IMA Pulley Task

Posted: September 5th, 2017, 12:26 pm
by Unome
ScottMaurer19 wrote:
Unome wrote:
ScottMaurer19 wrote: Wouldn't that still have an IMA of 1?
No, half the force comes from the free rope, the other half from the anchored rope. Example
I know very little about physics but all of the diagrams that look like that online say that the same set up has a IMA of 2
butterfly...

What you would actually want is something like this:
pulley ima one half.png
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Re: Low IMA Pulley Task

Posted: September 7th, 2017, 7:03 am
by Tesel
The easier thing would be a simple block and tackle type pulley (I think that's what it's called). One fixed pulley and one movable pulley give you an IMA of 0.5 so long as you pull down on the movable pulley.

Re: Low IMA Pulley Task

Posted: September 7th, 2017, 9:12 am
by Unome
Tesel wrote:The easier thing would be a simple block and tackle type pulley (I think that's what it's called). One fixed pulley and one movable pulley give you an IMA of 0.5 so long as you pull down on the movable pulley.
Agreed, this would be much easier. An illustration, for those not familiar with pulleys:
low IMA pulley.png
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Re: Low IMA Pulley Task

Posted: September 7th, 2017, 12:19 pm
by Tesel
Unome wrote:
Tesel wrote:The easier thing would be a simple block and tackle type pulley (I think that's what it's called). One fixed pulley and one movable pulley give you an IMA of 0.5 so long as you pull down on the movable pulley.
Agreed, this would be much easier. An illustration, for those not familiar with pulleys:
Yeah that should be much more simple to construct, that looks right.

Re: Low IMA Pulley Task

Posted: December 10th, 2017, 10:06 am
by absolutezerok3
How would you go about activating the pulley?

Re: Low IMA Pulley Task

Posted: December 10th, 2017, 10:23 am
by scioly2012
absolutezerok3 wrote:How would you go about activating the pulley?
I dropped a weight into a bucket attached to the moveable pulley, which made it go down.