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scrambler start

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Are you allowed to start off center to avoid the bucket?
If not, how do you get around it and back?
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scrambler rule 2c

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according to rule 2c, the conbinded masses must not exceed 2 kilograms. does that include the etv or is it just the falling mass(s).
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Re: scrambler rule 2c

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AFscienceO wrote:according to rule 2c, the conbinded masses must not exceed 2 kilograms. does that include the etv or is it just the falling mass(s).
So long as your ETV is not falling, as in rolling down a ramp (this is a viable strategy, though it may be illegal this year; check the rules to be sure), then it's probably not part of the mass. Generally in these cases, anything that contributes to the vehicle's motion is considered part of the mass. The word "combined" is most likely meant to cover instances where a team using several masses simultaneously, or where the ETV is part of the mass (e.g. a ramp launcher).
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Re: scrambler start

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AFscienceO wrote:Are you allowed to start off center to avoid the bucket?
If not, how do you get around it and back?
In Rule 3a, it defines the Start Point as marked on an approx. 2.5cm x 5cm long piece of tape centered between the Track Width Lines

In Rule 5e, it states "The pointed tip of the egg must start on the Start Point"

I would unofficially conclude from those two statements that you cannot start off center to avoid the bucket.

You would have to design your vehicle to travel in an arc path going around the bucket and returning back to the center line as best as possible.
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Re: scrambler start

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BDake wrote:
AFscienceO wrote:Are you allowed to start off center to avoid the bucket?
If not, how do you get around it and back?
In Rule 3a, it defines the Start Point as marked on an approx. 2.5cm x 5cm long piece of tape centered between the Track Width Lines

In Rule 5e, it states "The pointed tip of the egg must start on the Start Point"

I would unofficially conclude from those two statements that you cannot start off center to avoid the bucket.

You would have to design your vehicle to travel in an arc path going around the bucket and returning back to the center line as best as possible.
i now think that the start line extends completely through the track width, allowing the scrambler to start off center.
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Re: scrambler start

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AFscienceO wrote: i now think that the start line extends completely through the track width, allowing the scrambler to start off center.
https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... _Track.pdf

No off-center starting. As stated above, rule 3.a (illustrated in the track diagram I linked to) and rule 5.e make it so you must start with the egg in the middle of the track. You can, however, angle the vehicle around that point.
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Re: scrambler start

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SPP SciO wrote:
AFscienceO wrote: i now think that the start line extends completely through the track width, allowing the scrambler to start off center.
https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... _Track.pdf

No off-center starting. As stated above, rule 3.a (illustrated in the track diagram I linked to) and rule 5.e make it so you must start with the egg in the middle of the track. You can, however, angle the vehicle around that point.
then how are you suppose to turn to avoid the bucket and/or the side boundaries?
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Re: scrambler start

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AFscienceO wrote:
SPP SciO wrote:
AFscienceO wrote: i now think that the start line extends completely through the track width, allowing the scrambler to start off center.
https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... _Track.pdf

No off-center starting. As stated above, rule 3.a (illustrated in the track diagram I linked to) and rule 5.e make it so you must start with the egg in the middle of the track. You can, however, angle the vehicle around that point.
then how are you suppose to turn to avoid the bucket and/or the side boundaries?
Your Scrambler can start turned and be designed to curve, it just has to start with the front of the egg of the Start Point.
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Rule 5e

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"5e. The pointed tip of the egg must start on the Start Point. Other parts of the Scrambler (except the egg)may be in front of the Start Point and oriented any way in the ready-to-run position. See www.soinc.org.

Does this mean that the 'launcher' can be in front of the Start Point (starting line) and that the egg's tip needs to be on the Start Point? And, can the launcher be tilted?
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Re: Rule 5e

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keepfast wrote:"5e. The pointed tip of the egg must start on the Start Point. Other parts of the Scrambler (except the egg)may be in front of the Start Point and oriented any way in the ready-to-run position. See http://www.soinc.org.

Does this mean that the 'launcher' can be in front of the Start Point (starting line) and that the egg's tip needs to be on the Start Point? And, can the launcher be tilted?
Yes.

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