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We did the same thing when we found out we were going.
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ILoveEgretsClub wrote:The Murphy kids (who apparently fudged the data) somehow placed over the Gelinas kids, who I'm assuming wasted more time finding the data. How did a grader not see that?
They probably did. It was a perfectly legitimate strategy, since the event is graded strictly by the rubric.
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Sort of like Experimental, I suppose. But you would think the graders would actually be LOOKING at the data, if you know what i mean. In Experimental, they can't prove we faked anything. As for Compute...
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Our team probably lost points for having the wrong data, but that wouldn't have affected the scores for the graph/data table format.
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ILoveEgretsClub wrote:Sort of like Experimental, I suppose. But you would think the graders would actually be LOOKING at the data, if you know what i mean. In Experimental, they can't prove we faked anything. As for Compute...

What was your experiment for Exp. Design?

Ours was, "How do amounts of napkins 1, 2 and 3 effect how high a wiffle ball bounces in cm".

And in our Recommendations for Future Experiments, we had that we would give our data to a stunt man company, so they could find out how many landing pads they would need so that the person falling would not bounce xD

zorbsthekitty gets all credit for that one :lol:
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We tested the bounce height of the bounce ball from 30cm at different levels of batting (1.5,3,4.5cm). As for recommendations, i think it was something about sports.
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FueL wrote:
ILoveEgretsClub wrote:The Murphy kids (who apparently fudged the data) somehow placed over the Gelinas kids, who I'm assuming wasted more time finding the data. How did a grader not see that?
They probably did. It was a perfectly legitimate strategy, since the event is graded strictly by the rubric.
Hehe, DBQs and other essays in AP World were terrible like that, at least the way my teacher graded it (I think it's the official rubric for the class, but I'm not totally sure).

All the stuff in the rubric is about using the sources and point-of-view and stuff, but nowhere does it say that you're essay has to be factually correct. I remember writing one essay for that class on a topic I had no clue about, and I just outright made up facts. I ended up doing well on it because I still met the requirements on the rubric, regardless of the actual answers.

Rubrics like that, while run to abuse, are bad, and probably shouldn't be used in a competitive Scio event. Though to be fair, I guess they can't really check the data realistically.
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What I meant was that they'd still lose points for having the wrong data. They faked the data so they'd have a chance at getting points for making a graph/table, as opposed to leaving the whole thing blank. The graders probably did have a spreadsheet in front of them with all the correct data points.

Lol, DBQs.
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FueL wrote:What I meant was that they'd still lose points for having the wrong data. They faked the data so they'd have a chance at getting points for making a graph/table, as opposed to leaving the whole thing blank. The graders probably did have a spreadsheet in front of them with all the correct data points.

Lol, DBQs.
My partner and I thought we got all the data correct, we double/triple checked. We thought we did well on the graph. We also made the graph and didn't leave anything blank. We also finished the questions as well.

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FueL wrote:
Starapollo1 wrote:Murphy got killed in Junkyard!
It was a misplaced bowl. If that hadn't happened we would've easily gotten top 20 if not top 10.
Yeah. T__T
Junkyard was supposed to be one of my better events, if not my best. But it just happened to be a disaster on site, and I was crying during dinner. :/
..My partner was really, really upset about it. One part of the ramp sagged down a tiny bit because of the misplaced bowl, and apparently you're not allowed to take the ball off the ramp before going to put down the second ball down the ramp, so all the tennis balls got collected behind the first ball.

I was really surprised that they picked the ramp for us, I was really expecting the bouncer - although it shouldn't have mattered because we were very successful in all three challenges during practice. It was a catastrophe at the competition, and we were devastated, but I'm just really grateful for such amazing teammates, and you Gelinians! You were really great too, thanks so much <3 I'm really happy for you guys, make me proud at Nationals! <3
Regionals 2011
Towers - 4th
Science Crime Busters - 4th

New York State 2011
Towers - 5th
Science Crime Busters - 4th
Junkyard Challenge - ..36th T___T
Can't Judge a Powder - 23rd D:
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