New Jersey 2017

[pb5754]

FINAL RESULTS
Division B:
1. Community (95)
2. Thomas Grover (140)
3. Montgomery (144)

Division C:
1. WWP South (87)
2. Montgomery (88)
3. WWP North (109)

Full Results: http://njscienceolympiad.org/tournament ... esults.pdf

it looks like they excluded helicopters

[lumosityfan]

tbh, I'm just wondering if they could illuminate us on the thought process and be transparent on how they got to the final decision.

the fact it took 5 days meant they thought about it.

Or they made it look like it

NJSO probably already knew what they were going to do as soon as heli was appealed, and were also aware of how controversial this was; thus, they probably just waited the 5 days to make it seem like they deliberated about this, when they actually did not at all.

Actually, they did really need the full 5 days to make sure that all the numbers were correct. I just got an email from one of the directors saying that was true because, as you have seen, the scores were so close that they didn't want to make a mistake.

[BuildingFriend]

I think the more important questions now are: How will they take precedents now (2011 Heli), what they will do for heli last year, and how they can improve the quality of the tournament.

[pb5754]

FINAL RESULTS
Division B:
1. Community (95)
2. Thomas Grover (140)
3. Montgomery (144)

Division C:
1. WWP South (87)
2. Montgomery (88)
3. WWP North (109)

Full Results: http://njscienceolympiad.org/tournament ... esults.pdf

it looks like they excluded helicopters

Montgomery missed 2nd by 4 in Division B and 1st by 1 pt in Div C.

[pb5754]

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u guys still destroyed us by 45 pts

[Raleway]

Well it seems Monty can't be ignored anymore... what happened to WWPN (21 points?)

[pb5754]

Well it seems Monty can't be ignored anymore... what happened to WWPN (30 points?)

actually 21...
but yeah I have no idea

[sci_oly]

Or they made it look like it

NJSO probably already knew what they were going to do as soon as heli was appealed, and were also aware of how controversial this was; thus, they probably just waited the 5 days to make it seem like they deliberated about this, when they actually did not at all.

Actually, they did really need the full 5 days to make sure that all the numbers were correct. I just got an email from one of the directors saying that was true because, as you have seen, the scores were so close that they didn't want to make a mistake.

They needed 5 days to add up those numbers? Or are you saying they went back and regraded everything?

[windu34]

NJSO probably already knew what they were going to do as soon as heli was appealed, and were also aware of how controversial this was; thus, they probably just waited the 5 days to make it seem like they deliberated about this, when they actually did not at all.

Actually, they did really need the full 5 days to make sure that all the numbers were correct. I just got an email from one of the directors saying that was true because, as you have seen, the scores were so close that they didn't want to make a mistake.

They needed 5 days to add up those numbers? Or are you saying they went back and regraded everything?

I wouldn't be surprised if they went back and double checked all grading to ensure no mistakes were made. It has been done frequently enough when a national bid is on the line and a few mis-graded test questions could mean the difference between who goes to nats

[fanjiatian]

That's not saying much considering many study events were not administered/graded by the original test writers but rather last minute volunteers who were clueless about their events. Speaking as someone who helped write and find writers for several events only to have them graded without partial credit, despite the rubrics clearly allocating for partial credit.