New York 2014

[Safeguards]

Let's see, Compound Machines and Geo Mapping...Tommy? Or Niyati?

It's Tommy, I may or may not have lost all the info to my old Scioly account...oops.

@syo I wish, unfortunately I'm not on the state team this year so my chances of being there aren't looking too good right now

[syo_astro]

Not even coming? I'm pretty sure even if we didn't have room on the bus people could drive since Kellenberg isn't too far away >.>.

[Safeguards]

Not even coming? I'm pretty sure even if we didn't have room on the bus people could drive since Kellenberg isn't too far away >.>.

Probably not, unless some completely unreasonable turn of events happens that makes me an alternate. I did well at Regionals but I doubt it'll make a difference with seniority and stuff mixed in

[syo_astro]

Eh, alrighty. Sounds like you aren't quite graduating like me then T.T. Good luck either way, and good job at regs and all .

[gneissisnice]

Not even coming? I'm pretty sure even if we didn't have room on the bus people could drive since Kellenberg isn't too far away >.>.

Probably not, unless some completely unreasonable turn of events happens that makes me an alternate. I did well at Regionals but I doubt it'll make a difference with seniority and stuff mixed in

Well, with it being so close to us, maybe we can take more alternates than usual this year. It's not like we have to pay for hotel rooms or flights like states or nationals.

[blockhead]

caseyotis It is pretty odd that nobody can ever get scores from your region. What's with it? Do they just make up the order or are they using scores?

[caseyotis]

caseyotis It is pretty odd that nobody can ever get scores from your region. What's with it? Do they just make up the order or are they using scores?

What? I don't know why they don't post the results online. It's really pretty stupid. But I'm not sure what you mean about making up the order.

We recently got the scoresheet from the regional, so we now have scores. They aren't public, but I'll post the top five here.

1) Vestal - 62
2) Maine-Endwell - 84
3) Chenango Forks - 105
4) Ithaca - 108
5) Union Endicott - 121

My predictions for how the top three will do at states? Not very well. Vestal struggled with study events, not even medaling in Disease Detectives or Green Generation and only getting first in six events. The same goes for Maine-Endwell, who struggled big time with a lot of events and did very well in others. And in a region that is arguably the least competitive in NY, a team can't expect to do very well against those who beat thirty teams in their region if they don't pull off a performance like Fayetteville-Manlius in their region. I'm sorry, but I'm extremely critical, and my honest opinion is that I'd be extremely surprised if Vestal or Maine-Endwell (or Chenango Forks, even?) broke the top twenty at states.

[Flavorflav]

I don't think you could really argue that S.T. is the least competitive region.

[caseyotis]

I don't think you could really argue that S.T. is the least competitive region.

Meaning that it definitely is, or that there definitely is a less competitive region? I don't really know anything about the Adirondack or Lake Erie - Niagara region, so I wasn't sure. Are they less competitive? I'd be surprised.

[YUSO]

This question of competitiveness is a lot harder to solve than I thought…the statistics get hairy

Anyway, I parsed up the 2013 State results by region. For AD and LH, since they don't post results, I used geography to assign regions to school; it was pretty obvious who was where. Then I ran a bunch of means (by score, quintile index, rank, and median rank). The quintile index is simply 10 for one team in 1st quintile, 20 for 2nd quintile, etc. Sum the quintiles and take mean by region.

There's no way to "control" for any of these variables (i.e., group together based on some 3rd variable), since the point is to compare across regions. Pretty sure few of these, if any, are statistically significant due to sample size. Someone can run ANOVAs if they want haha.

Due to the different methods of calculations, there are mixed results overall, with some consistency (e.g., the bottom 4 regions), so we can't conclude too much, but it's still interesting.