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Re: New York 2013
Posted: September 20th, 2012, 6:51 pm
by juicemanman
Liv wrote:thehydrogenpoptart wrote:I've heard that Weber lost a coach this year, so maybe there will be a new champion in Western Long Island? Wisdom Lane perhaps?
I believe that he is coming back to help coach actually. In addition, another teacher is taking a position as coach and 10th and 9th graders might be coming back to help coach. So, is Weber losing a coach? Not really, but lezbehonest, Mr. Grande was the driving force of that team.
p.s. see you guys at Division C regionals!!!!!
LOL NOPE.
So was this Mr. Grande the coach that Weber lost?
Re: New York 2013
Posted: September 20th, 2012, 6:58 pm
by twototwenty
JuiceBagel3 wrote:foreverphysics wrote:
Concerning the top five, FM looks really set. It kinda just looks like they will win again this year. But for second place? Ward Melville won by 33 points last year and 19 points the year before that--that looks like they are set. But Syosset beat Columbia by 78 points two years ago, and only 1 point last year. Going by that, it seems very possible that WM might suffer an upset this year by either of those teams.
Looking at the building event results, it looks like every top ten team EXCEPT for Syosset made top five in at least one building event. Syosset received 140 points from building events alone (including SoM)...which is about 45.75% of their total score. In comparison, FM received 35 points total, WM received 104 (even though I have heard stories about something going wrong with Heli...), Columbia had 64 points, and Half Hollow Hills had 75. Based on that, it looks like Syosset could easily take second place if their building events improved.
The same can be said for Columbia--they could overtake second place, but they would have to improve more overall, not solely in one area.
Foreverphysics, I'd say those was an extremely accurate predictions. I was actually really surprised.

The difference actually between us and syosset was the medal count. They had 2 golds 2 silvers and 1 bronze, where we had 2 golds, 1 silver, and 2 bronze medals, I believe just flat scores without medals we tied last year. This year it's really between Ward/Syosset and Columbia, but to be honest, Ward's been slowly falling if you ask me, and this year I expect to see us, or syosset in second place. Haha if you have any other stats for me, feel free to let me know. Stats are fun.
All of the data she used can be found on newyorkscioly.org. You're right, stats are fun...It is neat to see how different teams have risen and fallen in different areas over the years.
Re: New York 2013
Posted: September 21st, 2012, 3:09 am
by smartypants01
Exactly. In my school, there is basically a group of 6 or 7 people that made our team go to states. All of our 9 medals were won by that group. We have only won 1 medal in a building event in my history, and we usually don't do well in building events.
Re: New York 2013
Posted: September 21st, 2012, 1:07 pm
by quizbowl
foreverphysics wrote:
Looking at the building event results, it looks like every top ten team EXCEPT for Syosset made top five in at least one building event. Syosset received 140 points from building events alone (including SoM)...which is about 45.75% of their total score. In comparison, FM received 35 points total, WM received 104 (even though I have heard stories about something going wrong with Heli...), Columbia had 64 points, and Half Hollow Hills had 75. Based on that, it looks like Syosset could easily take second place if their building events improved.
Study event-wise, which teams scored the lowest totals?
And yes, Syosset is notorious for the aforementioned

Re: New York 2013
Posted: September 21st, 2012, 3:23 pm
by FueL
foreverphysics wrote:(even though I have heard stories about something going wrong with Heli...),
We were disqualified. Our helicopter's time would have gotten first place.
Re: New York 2013
Posted: September 21st, 2012, 6:32 pm
by smartypants01
FueL wrote:foreverphysics wrote:(even though I have heard stories about something going wrong with Heli...),
We were disqualified. Our helicopter's time would have gotten first place.
How'd you get disqualified?
Re: New York 2013
Posted: September 21st, 2012, 6:38 pm
by FueL
smartypants01 wrote:How'd you get disqualified?
It was a misunderstanding between Harold Miller and some of my teammates who went to watch. Nothing to do with the actual event though.
Re: New York 2013
Posted: September 21st, 2012, 6:45 pm
by Liv
juicemanman wrote:Liv wrote:thehydrogenpoptart wrote:I've heard that Weber lost a coach this year, so maybe there will be a new champion in Western Long Island? Wisdom Lane perhaps?
I believe that he is coming back to help coach actually. In addition, another teacher is taking a position as coach and 10th and 9th graders might be coming back to help coach. So, is Weber losing a coach? Not really, but lezbehonest, Mr. Grande was the driving force of that team.
p.s. see you guys at Division C regionals!!!!!
LOL NOPE.
So was this Mr. Grande the coach that Weber lost?
As I just said, Weber did not lose a coach. Mr. Grande, Weber's head coach simply retired but he is still coaching the Science Olympiad team.
Re: New York 2013
Posted: September 21st, 2012, 6:50 pm
by thehydrogenpoptart
Liv wrote:juicemanman wrote:Liv wrote:
I believe that he is coming back to help coach actually. In addition, another teacher is taking a position as coach and 10th and 9th graders might be coming back to help coach. So, is Weber losing a coach? Not really, but lezbehonest, Mr. Grande was the driving force of that team.
p.s. see you guys at Division C regionals!!!!!
LOL NOPE.
So was this Mr. Grande the coach that Weber lost?
As I just said, Weber did not lose a coach. Mr. Grande, Weber's head coach simply retired but he is still coaching the Science Olympiad team.
Wow...it was my coach who told me you guys lost a coach, when I asked her how she thought Weber was going to do this year.
And guys, a few more posts and we'll overtake those Illinois-ians XD
Re: New York 2013
Posted: September 21st, 2012, 8:43 pm
by twototwenty
For quiz:
Team: Points attributed to non-builds, percentage of total attributed to non-builds
FM: 140, 80
WM: 167, 61
Syosset: 152, 50
Columbia: 233, 76
Half Hallow Hills East: 275, 78
Brighton: 252, 61
The desirable percentage of points from non-builds, in accordance to the ratio of building to non-building events, is 76. Of course, a team would want to achieve this by doing better in the field of events with the too-high percentage of points, but nice job Columbia for having a perfectly balanced score.