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Re: Protein Modeling C

Posted: December 18th, 2011, 12:00 pm
by akatsuki9
There is no DNA in the Jmol.

Re: Protein Modeling C

Posted: December 18th, 2011, 7:19 pm
by Allinea
akatsuki9 wrote:There is no DNA in the Jmol.
Hnn... Ah well. There goes that hope for an addition :(

Re: Protein Modeling C

Posted: December 21st, 2011, 1:58 pm
by akatsuki9
Does anyone have ideas on how to do the active site for caspase-3?

Re: Protein Modeling C

Posted: December 30th, 2011, 5:47 pm
by kappakun
After bending the toober excessively, I have found that our model has become wobbly. What do you guys do to keep the model stable?

Re: Protein Modeling C

Posted: January 1st, 2012, 5:46 am
by Phenylethylamine
kappakun wrote:After bending the toober excessively, I have found that our model has become wobbly. What do you guys do to keep the model stable?
I use 22-gauge jewelry wire to make supports (in place of those connectors that come with the kit, because those cannot be adjusted in length). I just have it around, because I make jewelry, but it should be possible to find at Michael's or a similar craft store.

Basically, you can use it to connect any two points that you want to stay fixed at a particular distance. Putting in just a few of these supports will drastically increase the rigidity of your model. You can also use it for vertical supports to attach your model to a base, since the toober isn't very heavy – but I do recommend doubling up the wire in that case.

Re: Protein Modeling C

Posted: January 3rd, 2012, 7:49 am
by Faustina
For those of you experienced with Jmol:

I've read that Cys-285 is part of the active site for Caspase-3, the prebuild model, so I want to include its sidechain in the prebuild. However, when I try to select "285" in Jmol, it comes up with Ala, not Cys. Why don't the numbers match up? Has anyone else noticed this?

Re: Protein Modeling C

Posted: January 3rd, 2012, 8:08 am
by EastStroudsburg13
It is possible that it is a typo, because I'm pretty confident it's a cysteine. Also, they could have mixed up the sulfur for a carbon. However, it is a good point to bring up, since it's definitely important to the protein's function. Perhaps we should submit a clarification on this.

Re: Protein Modeling C

Posted: January 3rd, 2012, 5:19 pm
by akatsuki9
To who?

Re: Protein Modeling C

Posted: January 3rd, 2012, 5:21 pm
by quizbowl
akatsuki9 wrote:To who?
*To whom.

You can send a clarification to the national coordinator of Protein Modeling here -> http://soinc.org/node/289

Re: Protein Modeling C

Posted: January 3rd, 2012, 5:31 pm
by Phenylethylamine
Faustina wrote:For those of you experienced with Jmol:

I've read that Cys-285 is part of the active site for Caspase-3, the prebuild model, so I want to include its sidechain in the prebuild. However, when I try to select "285" in Jmol, it comes up with Ala, not Cys. Why don't the numbers match up? Has anyone else noticed this?
EASTstroudsburg13 wrote:It is possible that it is a typo, because I'm pretty confident it's a cysteine. Also, they could have mixed up the sulfur for a carbon. However, it is a good point to bring up, since it's definitely important to the protein's function. Perhaps we should submit a clarification on this.
Yes, it's absolutely supposed to be a cysteine, and yes, that cysteine is very important to the protein's function. The numbers do match up; the alanine is just in the spot where the cysteine is supposed to be.

Look at the sequence summary on the PDB: see that red A at 285? If you hover over the red A, it says "ALA 285 (mismatch to CYS in UniProtKB)". UniProtKB is the Protein Knowledgebase, which has the sequences of basically all the proteins being studied (and variants thereof).

The most likely reason that this PDB file has an alanine there instead of a cysteine is that the x-ray diffraction interpretation software didn't see enough electron density there, so it assigned the small bit of the sidechain that it did see as an alanine. This is a reasonably common occurrence in protein structure determination. If that explanation doesn't help, don't worry about it; the important part is that there is a cysteine at that spot in the protein, always, and the PDB knows that; this is just an error in this particular file.

Of course, that doesn't really tell us what to do about it, so yes, I think a clarification would be in order. Previous clarifications have basically said that the protein as it appears in Jmol is the final authority, but in this case, that doesn't make any sense: that cysteine really is vital to the protein's function.