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Hey everyone! I really wanted to make some predictions, but it's hard to restrict a school to just one placing (plus there are definitely some teams I'm unfamiliar with). So I took a new approach to this whole prediction thing and I decided to list the schools I think are able to get within the top 20. But instead of definitively ranking them, I'm going to provide a range for the placings I think each team has the potential to get. Here are my division C predictions! Feel free to criticize these. (Note: There are many div C teams that I am unfamiliar with, so my predictions probably won't be as informed as others' are.)

Mounds View High School
• 5th-9th
West Windsor-Plainsboro High School South
• 7th-13th
Columbia High School
• 3rd-9th
Ward Melville High School
• 15th-18th
Brookwood High School
• 14th-19th
Chattahoochee High School
• 18th-23rd
Acton-Boxborough Regional High School
• 5th-8th
Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
• 17th-24th
Boca Raton Community High School
• 11th-15th
Mira Loma High School
• 11th-15th
Troy High School
• 1st-3rd
Adlai E. Stevenson High School
• 6th-11th
New Trier High School
• 8th-12th
Bothell High School
• 18th-22nd
William G. Enloe High School
• 19th-27th
Northville High School
• 12th-17th
Ann Arbor Pioneer High School
• 20th-25th
Solon High School
• 2nd-4th
Mason High School
• 3rd-5th
Harriton High School
• 6th-11th
Bayard Rustin High School
• 13th-18th
Seven Lakes High School
• 7th-9th

Also, I would like to apologize for attacking or heavily criticizing anyone's predictions. I don't mean to hurt anyone or come off as aggressive, I'm simply curious about the reasoning behind a lot of predictions, and if I really disagree with someone, I just want to show them why their prediction may not be accurate. I know the point of predictions is to predict results, but these threads are also for discussion of predictions, which I do want to engage in and am allowed to. I'm sorry for coming off as rude to anyone.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

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kate! wrote:Hey everyone! I really wanted to make some predictions, but it's hard to restrict a school to just one placing (plus there are definitely some teams I'm unfamiliar with). So I took a new approach to this whole prediction thing and I decided to list the schools I think are able to get within the top 20. But instead of definitively ranking them, I'm going to provide a range for the placings I think each team has the potential to get. Here are my division C predictions! Feel free to criticize these. (Note: There are many div C teams that I am unfamiliar with, so my predictions probably won't be as informed as others' are.)

Mounds View High School
• 5th-9th
West Windsor-Plainsboro High School South
• 7th-13th
Columbia High School
• 3rd-9th
Ward Melville High School
• 15th-18th
Brookwood High School
• 14th-19th
Chattahoochee High School
• 18th-23rd
Acton-Boxborough Regional High School
• 5th-8th
Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
• 17th-24th
Boca Raton Community High School
• 11th-15th
Mira Loma High School
• 11th-15th
Troy High School
• 1st-3rd
Adlai E. Stevenson High School
• 6th-11th
New Trier High School
• 8th-12th
Bothell High School
• 18th-22nd
William G. Enloe High School
• 19th-27th
Northville High School
• 12th-17th
Ann Arbor Pioneer High School
• 20th-25th
Solon High School
• 2nd-4th
Mason High School
• 3rd-5th
Harriton High School
• 6th-11th
Bayard Rustin High School
• 13th-18th
Seven Lakes High School
• 7th-9th

Also, I would like to apologize for attacking or heavily criticizing anyone's predictions. I don't mean to hurt anyone or come off as aggressive, I'm simply curious about the reasoning behind a lot of predictions, and if I really disagree with someone, I just want to show them why their prediction may not be accurate. I know the point of predictions is to predict results, but these threads are also for discussion of predictions, which I do want to engage in and am allowed to. I'm sorry for coming off as rude to anyone.
Why do you rank Troy as 1st-3rd when no other team has 1st in its range?
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

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TheSquaad wrote:
kate! wrote:Hey everyone! I really wanted to make some predictions, but it's hard to restrict a school to just one placing (plus there are definitely some teams I'm unfamiliar with). So I took a new approach to this whole prediction thing and I decided to list the schools I think are able to get within the top 20. But instead of definitively ranking them, I'm going to provide a range for the placings I think each team has the potential to get. Here are my division C predictions! Feel free to criticize these. (Note: There are many div C teams that I am unfamiliar with, so my predictions probably won't be as informed as others' are.)

Mounds View High School
• 5th-9th
West Windsor-Plainsboro High School South
• 7th-13th
Columbia High School
• 3rd-9th
Ward Melville High School
• 15th-18th
Brookwood High School
• 14th-19th
Chattahoochee High School
• 18th-23rd
Acton-Boxborough Regional High School
• 5th-8th
Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
• 17th-24th
Boca Raton Community High School
• 11th-15th
Mira Loma High School
• 11th-15th
Troy High School
• 1st-3rd
Adlai E. Stevenson High School
• 6th-11th
New Trier High School
• 8th-12th
Bothell High School
• 18th-22nd
William G. Enloe High School
• 19th-27th
Northville High School
• 12th-17th
Ann Arbor Pioneer High School
• 20th-25th
Solon High School
• 2nd-4th
Mason High School
• 3rd-5th
Harriton High School
• 6th-11th
Bayard Rustin High School
• 13th-18th
Seven Lakes High School
• 7th-9th

Also, I would like to apologize for attacking or heavily criticizing anyone's predictions. I don't mean to hurt anyone or come off as aggressive, I'm simply curious about the reasoning behind a lot of predictions, and if I really disagree with someone, I just want to show them why their prediction may not be accurate. I know the point of predictions is to predict results, but these threads are also for discussion of predictions, which I do want to engage in and am allowed to. I'm sorry for coming off as rude to anyone.
Why do you rank Troy as 1st-3rd when no other team has 1st in its range?
Because it's almost definite that they're going to win, but they don't have a 100% chance. Their worst case scenario is probably 3rd, and obviously their best case scenario is 1st, so that's what I went with.
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kate! wrote:
TheSquaad wrote: Why do you rank Troy as 1st-3rd when no other team has 1st in its range?
Because it's almost definite that they're going to win, but they don't have a 100% chance. Their worst case scenario is probably 3rd, and obviously their best case scenario is 1st, so that's what I went with.
I think the question is, if Troy gets 3rd, someone else would have to get 1st, but nobody else has 1st in their range to beat them. Maybe Solon's high end of their range would go to 1st, and Mason's would be 2nd (to fill 2nd place if Troy is 3rd).
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kate! wrote:Hey everyone! I really wanted to make some predictions, but it's hard to restrict a school to just one placing (plus there are definitely some teams I'm unfamiliar with). So I took a new approach to this whole prediction thing and I decided to list the schools I think are able to get within the top 20. But instead of definitively ranking them, I'm going to provide a range for the placings I think each team has the potential to get. Here are my division C predictions! Feel free to criticize these. (Note: There are many div C teams that I am unfamiliar with, so my predictions probably won't be as informed as others' are.)

Mounds View High School
• 5th-9th
West Windsor-Plainsboro High School South
• 7th-13th
Columbia High School
• 3rd-9th
Ward Melville High School
• 15th-18th
Brookwood High School
• 14th-19th
Chattahoochee High School
• 18th-23rd
Acton-Boxborough Regional High School
• 5th-8th
Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
• 17th-24th
Boca Raton Community High School
• 11th-15th
Mira Loma High School
• 11th-15th
Troy High School
• 1st-3rd
Adlai E. Stevenson High School
• 6th-11th
New Trier High School
• 8th-12th
Bothell High School
• 18th-22nd
William G. Enloe High School
• 19th-27th
Northville High School
• 12th-17th
Ann Arbor Pioneer High School
• 20th-25th
Solon High School
• 2nd-4th
Mason High School
• 3rd-5th
Harriton High School
• 6th-11th
Bayard Rustin High School
• 13th-18th
Seven Lakes High School
• 7th-9th

Also, I would like to apologize for attacking or heavily criticizing anyone's predictions. I don't mean to hurt anyone or come off as aggressive, I'm simply curious about the reasoning behind a lot of predictions, and if I really disagree with someone, I just want to show them why their prediction may not be accurate. I know the point of predictions is to predict results, but these threads are also for discussion of predictions, which I do want to engage in and am allowed to. I'm sorry for coming off as rude to anyone.
I'm still not convinced that Columbia can come as high as 3rd... both of Acton-Boxborough's teams beat Columbia at MIT, but you only put them at 5th-8th... Boca beat them too, and they are only 11th-15th...

Everything else I agree with I guess.
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kate! wrote:Hey everyone! I really wanted to make some predictions, but it's hard to restrict a school to just one placing (plus there are definitely some teams I'm unfamiliar with). So I took a new approach to this whole prediction thing and I decided to list the schools I think are able to get within the top 20. But instead of definitively ranking them, I'm going to provide a range for the placings I think each team has the potential to get. Here are my division C predictions! Feel free to criticize these. (Note: There are many div C teams that I am unfamiliar with, so my predictions probably won't be as informed as others' are.)

Mounds View High School
• 5th-9th
West Windsor-Plainsboro High School South
• 7th-13th
Columbia High School
• 3rd-9th
Ward Melville High School
• 15th-18th
Brookwood High School
• 14th-19th
Chattahoochee High School
• 18th-23rd
Acton-Boxborough Regional High School
• 5th-8th
Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
• 17th-24th
Boca Raton Community High School
• 11th-15th
Mira Loma High School
• 11th-15th
Troy High School
• 1st-3rd
Adlai E. Stevenson High School
• 6th-11th
New Trier High School
• 8th-12th
Bothell High School
• 18th-22nd
William G. Enloe High School
• 19th-27th
Northville High School
• 12th-17th
Ann Arbor Pioneer High School
• 20th-25th
Solon High School
• 2nd-4th
Mason High School
• 3rd-5th
Harriton High School
• 6th-11th
Bayard Rustin High School
• 13th-18th
Seven Lakes High School
• 7th-9th

Also, I would like to apologize for attacking or heavily criticizing anyone's predictions. I don't mean to hurt anyone or come off as aggressive, I'm simply curious about the reasoning behind a lot of predictions, and if I really disagree with someone, I just want to show them why their prediction may not be accurate. I know the point of predictions is to predict results, but these threads are also for discussion of predictions, which I do want to engage in and am allowed to. I'm sorry for coming off as rude to anyone.
I'm still not convinced that Columbia can come as high as 3rd... both of Acton-Boxborough's teams beat Columbia at MIT, but you only put them at 5th-8th... Boca beat them too, and they are only 11th-15th...

Everything else I agree with I guess.
I do think that I possibly put Columbia too high. I mostly based their range on their states score and consistency at states. I believe they have the potential to get as high as 3rd, but it is a bit of a stretch and I doubt it'll happen. As for AB and Boca, I've said what I think about MIT before. I agree that both teams are strong, but I'm putting them a significant amount higher than they usually are. MIT results, to me, are not that indicative of how strong they're going to be at nationals simply because of the stronger teams that did not attend this year. If teams such as Troy and Mason attended, AB and Boca would definitely have still been able to show how strong they were, but they wouldn't have been able to win and their results wouldn't be so much higher than previous years. I know that both AB and Boca beat Columbia, but my predictions are more based on individual team results rather than how they compare to other teams, hence the ranges over places.
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Why do you have Enloe so low?
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kate! wrote: William G. Enloe High School
• 19th-27th
Why do you have Enloe so low?
Their states score wasn't spectacular this year and it wasn't exactly indicative of any results higher than what they usually get. I know that they got 5th at MIT but I do believe (as I've said before) that results were significantly impacted this year by the absence of several teams and aren't as accurate for use in nats predictions. They probably could do better than what I predicted, but I think right now they're headed towards somewhere in that range (the lower end might be too low, though...).
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kate! wrote:
Alex-RCHS wrote:
kate! wrote: William G. Enloe High School
• 19th-27th
Why do you have Enloe so low?
Their states score wasn't spectacular this year and it wasn't exactly indicative of any results higher than what they usually get. I know that they got 5th at MIT but I do believe (as I've said before) that results were significantly impacted this year by the absence of several teams and aren't as accurate for use in nats predictions. They probably could do better than what I predicted, but I think right now they're headed towards somewhere in that range (the lower end might be too low, though...).
I think Enloe was actually either tiered or dq’d in boomilever at their state tournament. Either that or something went horribly wrong. I didn’t realize it at first either but it easily added 40+ points to their overall score.
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Selundar wrote:
kate! wrote:
Alex-RCHS wrote: Why do you have Enloe so low?
Their states score wasn't spectacular this year and it wasn't exactly indicative of any results higher than what they usually get. I know that they got 5th at MIT but I do believe (as I've said before) that results were significantly impacted this year by the absence of several teams and aren't as accurate for use in nats predictions. They probably could do better than what I predicted, but I think right now they're headed towards somewhere in that range (the lower end might be too low, though...).
I think Enloe was actually either tiered or dq’d in boomilever at their state tournament. Either that or something went horribly wrong. I didn’t realize it at first either but it easily added 40+ points to their overall score.
They were indeed tiered in Boom. They seem a little worse than last year, but should still place around 12-18th at nats, I think.
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