Unofficial Rankings B

[windu34]

My team has dominated Florida this year. I thought we would be in at least top 20 predictions. Rip

Florida teams traditionally do not do very well at nationals because despite a relatively high registration, Florida is not a very competitive state relatively.
Additionally just to be frank, you guys certainly did not "Dominate" Florida in any way. Yes, you guys placed 1st at your regional and states this year, but 2nd place at States was only 5 points behind (essentially negligible difference). Additionally, Archimedean Middle traditionally places ~30-40th place so there is no reason to think that you guys will perform significantly better (especially since this is your first year at nationals and you guys have no idea just how competitive it is).

To get an idea of what "dominate" means, Troy won their state tournament this year beating second place by ~100 points and has done this for over 2 decades.

Okay, I just double checked the scioly national results and for some reason, I thought that the team numbers were their placements and I thought Archimedean got 21st. So yeah we won't get top 25 most likely. But, our team got 157 points and Archimedean got like 167.

RCSA got 157 and Archimedean got 162. These are negligible differences.

[antoine_ego]

Just think of wydowns growth. There is probably no team that has made it to nationals in their 3rd year competing in science olympiad.

My team made it in our second and third years...

You're from Idaho, possibly one of the worst scioly states.

I wasn't aware that it was now acceptable to trash other state's teams for no reason...

[Matholy]

Community: 1st year, 17th, 2nd year 8th, 3rd year 2nd, 4th year 1st.

2002-2005 btw

Edit:
2002-2005 was probably a lot easier though lol

Technically the team was formed in 2001, and we got 3rd in NJ.
So we went from no team to 1st in the nation in 5 years lol.

Well, since NJSO was formed in 1993 (according to the historical tournaments page)... Lawrenceville MS and Northern Highlands HS both went during their first year.

Then technically 100 teams in the US went to nats in their first year...?

[pb5754]

Technically the team was formed in 2001, and we got 3rd in NJ.
So we went from no team to 1st in the nation in 5 years lol.

Well, since NJSO was formed in 1993 (according to the historical tournaments page)... Lawrenceville MS and Northern Highlands HS both went during their first year.

Then technically 100 teams in the US went to nats in their first year...?

Well, 120 yeah. Not sure how many teams were in the first year of Nats...

[Matholy]

Well, since NJSO was formed in 1993 (according to the historical tournaments page)... Lawrenceville MS and Northern Highlands HS both went during their first year.

Then technically 100 teams in the US went to nats in their first year...?

Well, 120 yeah. Not sure how many teams were in the first year of Nats...

This is confusing lol
The first nats tourney had 19(+3?) teams:
https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... esults.pdf
But then there were ALOT of duplicate states.
So at least 100.

Also, keep in mind that it could be something like this:
Year there were 50 teams:
NJ: 1, community MS, 2, montgomery.
Next year, 60 teams:
BOTH community and montgomery go to nats.
But it's not mont's first year.
So it counts as only 1.

[Unome]

Then technically 100 teams in the US went to nats in their first year...?

Well, 120 yeah. Not sure how many teams were in the first year of Nats...

This is confusing lol
The first nats tourney had 19(+3?) teams:
https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... esults.pdf
But then there were ALOT of duplicate states.
So at least 100.

Also, keep in mind that it could be something like this:
Year there were 50 teams:
NJ: 1, community MS, 2, montgomery.
Next year, 60 teams:
BOTH community and montgomery go to nats.
But it's not mont's first year.
So it counts as only 1.

Did anyone even consider that every single state wouldn't be participating in the first year?

Those 19 comprise all of the teams at Nationals that year, as do most historical Nationals results (besides the one that shows 10 teams, that's incomplete).

[Matholy]

But then if lets say Wyoming's first state comeptition was in 2005, then the first school in Wyoming, "School X" would have went in their first year too. So theres still 50 states.
UNLESS lets say you live in Washington DC, and you went to Maryland to compete last year. This year they have a bid so that wouldn't count, even though it's a new state.

[hippo9]

Why does this even matter?

[pb5754]

Why does this even matter?

It doesn't.

[Nerd_Bunny]

My team made it in our second and third years...

You're from Idaho, possibly one of the worst scioly states.

I wasn't aware that it was now acceptable to trash other state's teams for no reason...

Be nice to Idaho, y'all...we're trying our best to be competitive in a not competitive state. According to our performances this year, (our actual knowledge and not just medals) our team actually has a chance at ranking in a few events. We got 16th in Disease Detectives last year.