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Posted: **February 20th, 2012, 1:56 pm**

Usually, I feel that shagbark appears bigger than pignut, but there is a lot of overlap.

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Posted: **February 20th, 2012, 2:03 pm**

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Balsam Fir?

Posted: **February 20th, 2012, 3:25 pm**

Close, not quite

Posted: **February 20th, 2012, 3:51 pm**

Subalpine Fir?

Posted: **February 20th, 2012, 3:53 pm**

Correct, how did you know?

Posted: **February 20th, 2012, 3:59 pm**

PacificGoldenPlover wrote:Correct, how did you know?

The needles looked really short (on the nationals list, only balsam fir and subalpine fir have needles <1 in, the other 2 firs have needles twice as long) so if it isn't balsam fir, then its subalpine fir

Posted: **February 20th, 2012, 4:03 pm**

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Black Hawthorn?

Posted: **February 20th, 2012, 4:06 pm**

Yup! Any suggestions on how to tell black hawthorn and frosted hawthorn apart?

Posted: **February 20th, 2012, 4:07 pm**

I always thought frosted hawthorn had deeper lobes

Posted: **February 20th, 2012, 4:11 pm**

I don't see much of that on online pictures but that's just me.

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