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Re: Politics

Posted: January 8th, 2020, 12:58 pm
by AlfWeg
MadCow2357 wrote: January 7th, 2020, 8:12 pm
AlfWeg wrote: January 7th, 2020, 6:44 pm
Unome wrote: January 7th, 2020, 5:14 pm

Oppose.
UBI more like BLS
Any honor readers out there? :P
What's BLS?

What do you oppose about UBI?
BLS stands for Basic Living Stipend

Re: Politics

Posted: January 9th, 2020, 6:48 am
by MadCow2357
Unome wrote: January 7th, 2020, 8:53 pm
MadCow2357 wrote: January 7th, 2020, 8:12 pm
AlfWeg wrote: January 7th, 2020, 6:44 pm
UBI more like BLS
Any honor readers out there? :P
What's BLS?

What do you oppose about UBI?
The concept, premise, and likely execution. (so, all of it)
Are you worried about people getting lazy and just not working anymore?

1k a month isn't really enough for that to happen, and studies show that the two groups who will work less because of UBI are mothers with newborn children and college students who spend more time focusing on their studies.

If you're concerned about a descent into socialism, think about it this way - UBI is actually a very capitalist idea, since the money will flow through the economy more quickly with every American having more money to spend.

Re: Politics

Posted: January 29th, 2020, 7:48 pm
by TheChiScientist
MadCow2357 wrote: January 9th, 2020, 6:48 am
Unome wrote: January 7th, 2020, 8:53 pm
MadCow2357 wrote: January 7th, 2020, 8:12 pm
What's BLS?

What do you oppose about UBI?
The concept, premise, and likely execution. (so, all of it)
Are you worried about people getting lazy and just not working anymore?

1k a month isn't really enough for that to happen, and studies show that the two groups who will work less because of UBI are mothers with newborn children and college students who spend more time focusing on their studies.

If you're concerned about a descent into socialism, think about it this way - UBI is actually a very capitalist idea, since the money will flow through the economy more quickly with every American having more money to spend.
Angry socialist noises intensify
Honestly I like the concept but I'll stick with my boy Sanders. Seeing how the senate is dOiNg SuCh A gReAt JoB running the impeachment trials impartially it seem like the democrats will need to rally behind Sanders if they want to beat Trump in the election.

Re: Politics

Posted: January 29th, 2020, 8:36 pm
by Things2do
TheChiScientist wrote: January 29th, 2020, 7:48 pm
MadCow2357 wrote: January 9th, 2020, 6:48 am
Unome wrote: January 7th, 2020, 8:53 pm

The concept, premise, and likely execution. (so, all of it)
Are you worried about people getting lazy and just not working anymore?

1k a month isn't really enough for that to happen, and studies show that the two groups who will work less because of UBI are mothers with newborn children and college students who spend more time focusing on their studies.

If you're concerned about a descent into socialism, think about it this way - UBI is actually a very capitalist idea, since the money will flow through the economy more quickly with every American having more money to spend.
Angry socialist noises intensify
Honestly I like the concept but I'll stick with my boy Sanders. Seeing how the senate is dOiNg SuCh A gReAt JoB running the impeachment trials impartially it seem like the democrats will need to rally behind Sanders if they want to beat Trump in the election.
At least they're as impartial as the House was during their portion of it.

Re: Politics

Posted: January 30th, 2020, 7:44 am
by EastStroudsburg13
Things2do wrote: January 29th, 2020, 8:36 pm At least they're as impartial as the House was during their portion of it.
The House's conclusion was corroborated by the testimony of all witnesses who were present. If there was nothing to the impeachment case, surely the defense would have been able to come up with a witness to confirm that? And before you try to bring it up, theories that House Democrats were somehow preventing or intimidating some witnesses from testifying is just a low-effort excuse, as there would be no way for that to happen when most of the branches of government are Republican-controlled. The fact is that the evidence as presented thus far is overwhelmingly in favor of an impeachable offense having been committed, and personal opinions really have no place in that conclusion.

Re: Politics

Posted: January 30th, 2020, 1:26 pm
by LittleMissNyan
So I think I might have come up with a general theory of sorts???

If you're using your freedom of _____ to take away someone else's freedom of _____ it's not freedom

Re: Politics

Posted: January 30th, 2020, 2:17 pm
by PM2017
LittleMissNyan wrote: January 30th, 2020, 1:26 pm So I think I might have come up with a general theory of sorts???

If you're using your freedom of _____ to take away someone else's freedom of _____ it's not freedom
Obviously the first thing that comes to mind is freedom of speech.

I have no problem with people saying that that the US should start banning "hate" speech.

I would, however have a problem with US actually banning "hate" speech.

(Basically if you're using freedom of speech to try to take away someone else's freedom of speech, it's ok, until you actually successfully take away their speech. If that makes sense)

TheChiScientist wrote: January 29th, 2020, 7:48 pm Honestly I like the concept but I'll stick with my boy Sanders. Seeing how the senate is dOiNg SuCh A gReAt JoB running the impeachment trials impartially it seem like the democrats will need to rally behind Sanders if they want to beat Trump in the election.
Although I think Sanders is just about as wrong as you can be politically, I have enormous respect for the man, and his integrity. He may be wrong (IMO), but he'll stand up for what he believes in. I think he truly thinks that his policies will help.

Still, I don't think he's particularly electable. Which IMO is a good thing.

Re: Politics

Posted: January 30th, 2020, 2:42 pm
by EastStroudsburg13
PM2017 wrote: January 30th, 2020, 2:17 pmHe may be wrong
Or he may not be, who's to say? ;)

Re: Politics

Posted: January 30th, 2020, 3:31 pm
by PM2017
EastStroudsburg13 wrote: January 30th, 2020, 2:42 pm
PM2017 wrote: January 30th, 2020, 2:17 pmHe may be wrong
Or he may not be, who's to say? ;)
Ah, my apologies. I thought I'd written an "IMO" in parentheses there. I will go fix that.

EDIT: I think I've fixed all the formatting mistakes I made?

Re: Politics

Posted: January 30th, 2020, 3:39 pm
by Unome
LittleMissNyan wrote: January 30th, 2020, 1:26 pm So I think I might have come up with a general theory of sorts???

If you're using your freedom of _____ to take away someone else's freedom of _____ it's not freedom
State your variables specifically. Are both blanks supposed to be equivalent?