The plywood got us too. For some reason, the hovercraft stopped in the middle of the track on every run. Strange thing, in Michigan: Our middle school had a 1950g craft, was 5 seconds off of 25, and I know they did a decent job on the test. Yet, they didn't place (top 8). In the past, very few teams were able to get near 25 seconds. Must be really competitive now...BDake wrote:Lesson learned from States this weekend - just when you think you'd tested as many surfaces you can anticipate for the track, plywood shows up - would have never guessed this to be a possible surface, and cost us dearly. Others clearly pulled it off, so wasn't impossible by any stretch - just circles back to all the real world comments and advice in this forum to be as prepared as possible for variables in the events.chalker wrote:Exactly this ^. I couldn't have said it better.Ashernoel wrote: The track is just going to change the coefficient of friction. If you test on a track with a different coefficient of friction, which we probably all will because we can't know 100% how he made the track, what the rails were and all the stuff that effects it, you just have to know how to account for different coefficients of friction in your math and calculations. Its a physics event after all ..
It also makes it the most fair if we are kept in the dark about the track until we have to run it. Every team that either checks the forum or not will be on the exact same page
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thats funny we got almost no points on the testing portion and somehow ended up fifth xD0ddrenaline wrote:The plywood got us too. For some reason, the hovercraft stopped in the middle of the track on every run. Strange thing, in Michigan: Our middle school had a 1950g craft, was 5 seconds off of 25, and I know they did a decent job on the test. Yet, they didn't place (top 8). Must be really competitive...BDake wrote:Lesson learned from States this weekend - just when you think you'd tested as many surfaces you can anticipate for the track, plywood shows up - would have never guessed this to be a possible surface, and cost us dearly. Others clearly pulled it off, so wasn't impossible by any stretch - just circles back to all the real world comments and advice in this forum to be as prepared as possible for variables in the events.chalker wrote:
Exactly this ^. I couldn't have said it better.
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Well, if you had states this weekend, and if your track was plywood..... Awww nice! "Others clearly pulled it off" is talking about me!BDake wrote:Lesson learned from States this weekend - just when you think you'd tested as many surfaces you can anticipate for the track, plywood shows up - would have never guessed this to be a possible surface, and cost us dearly. Others clearly pulled it off, so wasn't impossible by any stretch - just circles back to all the real world comments and advice in this forum to be as prepared as possible for variables in the events.chalker wrote:Exactly this ^. I couldn't have said it better.Ashernoel wrote: The track is just going to change the coefficient of friction. If you test on a track with a different coefficient of friction, which we probably all will because we can't know 100% how he made the track, what the rails were and all the stuff that effects it, you just have to know how to account for different coefficients of friction in your math and calculations. Its a physics event after all ..
It also makes it the most fair if we are kept in the dark about the track until we have to run it. Every team that either checks the forum or not will be on the exact same page
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The Hovercraft track was certainly not ideal. The middle of our track had increased friction as well. We were able to get a 20 second run in, however, and I thought the test was very easy. We ended up getting 3rd in the State - our Hovercraft was 1970g.0ddrenaline wrote:The plywood got us too. For some reason, the hovercraft stopped in the middle of the track on every run. Strange thing, in Michigan: Our middle school had a 1950g craft, was 5 seconds off of 25, and I know they did a decent job on the test. Yet, they didn't place (top 8). In the past, very few teams were able to get near 25 seconds. Must be really competitive now...BDake wrote:Lesson learned from States this weekend - just when you think you'd tested as many surfaces you can anticipate for the track, plywood shows up - would have never guessed this to be a possible surface, and cost us dearly. Others clearly pulled it off, so wasn't impossible by any stretch - just circles back to all the real world comments and advice in this forum to be as prepared as possible for variables in the events.chalker wrote:
Exactly this ^. I couldn't have said it better.
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One off of the greatest streak everMIScioly1 wrote:The Hovercraft track was certainly not ideal. The middle of our track had increased friction as well. We were able to get a 20 second run in, however, and I thought the test was very easy. We ended up getting 3rd in the State - our Hovercraft was 1970g.0ddrenaline wrote:The plywood got us too. For some reason, the hovercraft stopped in the middle of the track on every run. Strange thing, in Michigan: Our middle school had a 1950g craft, was 5 seconds off of 25, and I know they did a decent job on the test. Yet, they didn't place (top 8). In the past, very few teams were able to get near 25 seconds. Must be really competitive now...BDake wrote:
Lesson learned from States this weekend - just when you think you'd tested as many surfaces you can anticipate for the track, plywood shows up - would have never guessed this to be a possible surface, and cost us dearly. Others clearly pulled it off, so wasn't impossible by any stretch - just circles back to all the real world comments and advice in this forum to be as prepared as possible for variables in the events.
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maybe if it had been 1999 it would complete the 2/2/2/2 streakUnome wrote:One off of the greatest streak everMIScioly1 wrote:The Hovercraft track was certainly not ideal. The middle of our track had increased friction as well. We were able to get a 20 second run in, however, and I thought the test was very easy. We ended up getting 3rd in the State - our Hovercraft was 1970g.0ddrenaline wrote: The plywood got us too. For some reason, the hovercraft stopped in the middle of the track on every run. Strange thing, in Michigan: Our middle school had a 1950g craft, was 5 seconds off of 25, and I know they did a decent job on the test. Yet, they didn't place (top 8). In the past, very few teams were able to get near 25 seconds. Must be really competitive now...
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Who knowsAshernoel wrote:maybe if it had been 1999 it would complete the 2/2/2/2 streakUnome wrote:One off of the greatest streak everMIScioly1 wrote:
The Hovercraft track was certainly not ideal. The middle of our track had increased friction as well. We were able to get a 20 second run in, however, and I thought the test was very easy. We ended up getting 3rd in the State - our Hovercraft was 1970g.
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You do realize you can use modeling clay to bring it to max mass during the tournament... -__-
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On Avogadro, the written test for hovercraft was in the trial events section. Maybe they just threw the test out for some reason.Ashernoel wrote:thats funny we got almost no points on the testing portion and somehow ended up fifth xD0ddrenaline wrote:The plywood got us too. For some reason, the hovercraft stopped in the middle of the track on every run. Strange thing, in Michigan: Our middle school had a 1950g craft, was 5 seconds off of 25, and I know they did a decent job on the test. Yet, they didn't place (top 8). Must be really competitive...BDake wrote:
Lesson learned from States this weekend - just when you think you'd tested as many surfaces you can anticipate for the track, plywood shows up - would have never guessed this to be a possible surface, and cost us dearly. Others clearly pulled it off, so wasn't impossible by any stretch - just circles back to all the real world comments and advice in this forum to be as prepared as possible for variables in the events.
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I firmly believe that there is an alternate universe where us getting 2nd place instead of 3rd is the difference between our team going to Nationals or not, and in that universe, alternate me and alternate MIScioly get 2nd at Nationals.Unome wrote:One off of the greatest streak everMIScioly1 wrote:The Hovercraft track was certainly not ideal. The middle of our track had increased friction as well. We were able to get a 20 second run in, however, and I thought the test was very easy. We ended up getting 3rd in the State - our Hovercraft was 1970g.0ddrenaline wrote: The plywood got us too. For some reason, the hovercraft stopped in the middle of the track on every run. Strange thing, in Michigan: Our middle school had a 1950g craft, was 5 seconds off of 25, and I know they did a decent job on the test. Yet, they didn't place (top 8). In the past, very few teams were able to get near 25 seconds. Must be really competitive now...
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