MIT Invitational

[windu34]

Predictions:

1.) Seven Lakes
2.) Troy
3.) Mentor
4.) LASA
5.) Harriton
6.) Solon
7.) WWPN
8.) Boca Raton
9.) Bayard Rustin
10.) Ward Melville

RIP Clements and AB

Hard to know where to place them tbh. Solid teams for sure though. I don't understand the hype for clements - they start the season strong, but are quickly surpassed by SL and LASA. Assuming everyone is bringing stacked teams, I don't see how clements will be in the top 10 this year with the insane number of national teams this year as well as the number of teams in general (75 or something)

[jkang]

Hard to know where to place them tbh. Solid teams for sure though. I don't understand the hype for clements - they start the season strong, but are quickly surpassed by SL and LASA. Assuming everyone is bringing stacked teams, I don't see how clements will be in the top 10 this year with the insane number of national teams this year as well as the number of teams in general (75 or something)

Clements can definitely be a force to be reckoned with, especially during my time at LASA. Clements also did pretty well at MIT last year (top 10?), and they were very close to making nationals the last two years, barring some stupid mistakes but also debatable choices by the state supervisors. But such is the way of Texas SciO ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[antoine_ego]

My predictions:

1. Troy
2. Seven Lakes
3. Solon
4. LASA
5. Mentor
6. Clements
7. Harriton
8. Acton-Boxborough (hopefully)
9. WWPN
10. Chattahoochee

Troy first because... well Troy is Troy.

[Private Wang Fire]

Predictions:

1.) Seven Lakes
2.) Troy
3.) Mentor
4.) LASA
5.) Harriton
6.) Solon
7.) WWPN
8.) Boca Raton
9.) Bayard Rustin
10.) Ward Melville

Any reason specifically for the mentor over solon? Or just intuition?

[windu34]

Predictions:

1.) Seven Lakes
2.) Troy
3.) Mentor
4.) LASA
5.) Harriton
6.) Solon
7.) WWPN
8.) Boca Raton
9.) Bayard Rustin
10.) Ward Melville

Any reason specifically for the mentor over solon? Or just intuition?

Solons builds seem underdeveloped at the beginning of the season (similar to LASA) and have a few bomb events that have carried over into this year. Mentor's builds seem very strong at the start of the season and I know they have dedicated event coaches for many events including EV (not to say that event coaches will necessarily guarantee success, but I am sure it lends a hand to doing well early in the season)

[reefownage]

LASA never takes any of these early invitationals seriously (and Clements doesn't either) which is why Seven Lakes appears to be doing well this year. And teams can get worse, too: LASA went from 3rd at nationals (which is what Seven Lakes got last year) to 9th place the year after.

There's no doubt that there's a lot of smart people there; I just don't see them doing that well

Usually I'd agree, but I'm leaning towards following the trend from Beckendorff (and windu assuming we're thinking of the same person, he's still around).

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here.

It's true Seven Lakes has a few good people, but they can't carry the entire team. At first, their scores at invitationals seem pretty good, but if you look closely, they have a considerable amount of holes - chem lab, optics, material science, to name a few. It's simply not a well rounded team.

I also agree with what jkang said about Div B/Div C. I don't think Beckendorff's history of doing reasonably well will have much affect on Seven Lakes; lots of things change between middle school and high school. People get busier, lose motivation, become overconfident, etc. And even if it does have some sort of effect, Beckendorff's only getting worse. LASA and Clements are both quite strong schools even through their middle schools (Kealing and Fort Settlement, respectively) aren't that good in scioly

There's no doubt that Seven Lakes is a great team - third place at nationals means something. I just feel like people are overreacting, acting like they've won nationals when all they've done is get second place at state seven times in a row

Great points! See you at MIT!

[AznPr0d1gy]

I gladly look forward to your competitors in the Helicopters gymnasium!

[maxxxxx]

Since most schools that are sending two teams aren't going to be sending split teams to a high-caliber competition like this, I doubt ranking the schools by their overall performance will be different than the actual results regarding A and B teams(at least for the top-ten).

Predictions
1. Seven Lakes
2. Troy
3. Solon
4. Mentor
5. LASA
6. Harriton
7. WWP-N
8. Clements
9. Boca Raton
10. Ward Melville

[windu34]

Since most schools that are sending two teams aren't going to be sending split teams to a high-caliber competition like this, I doubt ranking the schools by their overall performance will be different than the actual results regarding A and B teams(at least for the top-ten).

Predictions
1. Seven Lakes
2. Troy
3. Solon
4. Mentor
5. LASA
6. Harriton
7. WWP-N
8. Clements
9. Boca Raton
10. Ward Melville

Not true; Acton Boxborough took 4th and 6th at MIT one year (if I recall correctly)

[maxxxxx]

Since most schools that are sending two teams aren't going to be sending split teams to a high-caliber competition like this, I doubt ranking the schools by their overall performance will be different than the actual results regarding A and B teams(at least for the top-ten).

Predictions
1. Seven Lakes
2. Troy
3. Solon
4. Mentor
5. LASA
6. Harriton
7. WWP-N
8. Clements
9. Boca Raton
10. Ward Melville

Not true; Acton Boxborough took 4th and 6th at MIT one year (if I recall correctly)

Mentor also sent split teams last year(which I noticed after I posted this), but I still think the top-ten isn't going to be largely impacted besides maybe moving Harriton and possibly Troy up a little.