Junkyard Challenge C

[fleet130]

This appears to be one of those cases where the rules can be interpreted to mean something completely different from what was intended. In the context of the description of "Tipping The Scale, "scale" refers to a device for determining mass/weight, not graduations found on other measuring devices.

On the other hand, once the rules are written and published, there is little that can be done about different interpretations that may be made at various tournaments. Even if you submit a question to the national organization and they publish an opinion, it doesn't necessarily mean the event supervisor at your tournament will have heard about it. Even if they do, there may be compelling reasons (to them any way) for not following it. e.g. They have already been asked and answered the question long before the national published their opinion.

The bottom line is: The only way to be sure is to pose the question to whomever will be judging the competition you will be competing in. You should do this for each tournament. Don't take it for granted that they will interpret the rules the same.

[sciolygirl]

So basically the challenge is to create a unique working scale that measures mass/weight not length or what not, and you are given a mystery material that must be added to your creation in a in which it will stil give you an accurate measurement, but you do not know the mystery items size, shape, or weight? Do you have a list of materials you cannot use? What exactly are the rules i do not quite understand this event. It seems unrealistically difficault since you have no idea what so ever what mystery item you are given, or specific guide lines. What materials are not allowed and what are? How would you get disqualified? And does it need to fit in the box with a lid on or can it stick out can you have different attatchments you are allowed to switch up depending on the mystery item? Are you allowed to change around your creation based on the mystery item given? there are so many questions with out it is funny!

[jazzy009]

So basically the challenge is to create a unique working scale that measures mass/weight not length or what not, and you are given a mystery material that must be added to your creation in a in which it will stil give you an accurate measurement, but you do not know the mystery items size, shape, or weight? Do you have a list of materials you cannot use? What exactly are the rules i do not quite understand this event. It seems unrealistically difficault since you have no idea what so ever what mystery item you are given, or specific guide lines. What materials are not allowed and what are? How would you get disqualified? And does it need to fit in the box with a lid on or can it stick out can you have different attatchments you are allowed to switch up depending on the mystery item? Are you allowed to change around your creation based on the mystery item given? there are so many questions with out it is funny!

ill answer a few of these.

*it has to fit in the box. what this means is it will be partially created before the event, then you build the rest at the comp.
*dont use glue at the comp. also in general no commercial scale parts.
*it is difficult (challenging, some would say ) but once youve built your model you will understand how to incorporate mystery items
*there are 4 tiers... just keep reading the rules to stay in the first tier.
you are definitely allowed to change your model based on the mystery item. that is exactly the ingenuity they are looking for

[slrichardson]

HELP!!!

My partner and I made a basic scale for this event (basically the opposite of Mission Possible), we need to know if our scale is to basic, because as of right now all we do is place the object on our scale and measure it's mass. We have no marble rolling down a ramp, or pulley system, etc.

http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/tt346/slrichardson/
(just scroll down and click on pic to view it)

If you have any suggestion please reply. Thanks.

[slrichardson]

Here's the guest password: hiscioly

http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/tt346/slrichardson/

[DeltaHat]

Looks like it could work. JYC is about elegant simplicity, not gratuitous complexity. It is, as you stated, the polar opposite of Mission Possible.

[Dark Sabre]

HELP!!!

My partner and I made a basic scale for this event (basically the opposite of Mission Possible), we need to know if our scale is to basic, because as of right now all we do is place the object on our scale and measure it's mass. We have no marble rolling down a ramp, or pulley system, etc.

http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/tt346/slrichardson/
(just scroll down and click on pic to view it)

If you have any suggestion please reply. Thanks.

Here's the guest password: hiscioly

http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/tt346/slrichardson/

Since you posted the actual account password...I went in and made a guest password. Your post now shows that. Also check your old post...I copied the image tag code from the picture, so you could just do that in the future.

[slrichardson]

Thanks you for changing it...

However I'm somewhat confused on another matter. Is the mystery device supposed to built in to the device or is it supposed to replace a piece in our design. If it's supposed to be built in what can we use to build with, if we cannot bring glue, tape, or power tools?

[sachleen]

Thanks you for changing it...

However I'm somewhat confused on another matter. Is the mystery device supposed to built in to the device or is it supposed to replace a piece in our design. If it's supposed to be built in what can we use to build with, if we cannot bring glue, tape, or power tools?

It has to be incorporated into your device in such a manner that if it is removed, your device cannot function as normal. Also, your idea would work fine for heavy objects, but what if its like a plastic spoon? If you remove the spoon from your device, it will still give you an accurate reading of the mass so the mystery object wasn't a vital part of your device.

[slrichardson]

Are we allowed to use additional hardware AND/OR glue, tape nails, screws, etc. in order to incorporate the mystery object into our design?