General Mission Possible

[Orchdork]

Does the device have to have a duration of exactly 3 minuets or can it be a little shorter/ longer??? I'm new at this event and my physics skills aren't that um... good? So any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[chalker7]

Does the device have to have a duration of exactly 3 minuets or can it be a little shorter/ longer??? I'm new at this event and my physics skills aren't that um... good? So any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Carefully read rules 6.b, 7.c and 8.a. They cover the ideal time at different competitions, number of points you receive up to the ideal time and penalties for going over the ideal time.

[mattravn]

We had a fun question come up at practice. Would a wind up toy (such as a wind up car or other mechanical toy) be allowed for use if the winding was set before starting the system and a previous action allowed the wind up toy to move? Thanks. First year coaching, so I'll likely be here all day

I think rule 3.f. can answer your question for you.

I'm not sure it does. If you had a wind up toy set, but not moving at the start of the process, and then during the sequence something moved or activated the wind up toy so it could go, it seems like it might be more analgous to a mousetrap (preset spring) than a motor. I guess the other way to ask the question is would a wind up toy be an energy device or a motor.

I kind of thought 3f was referring to one could not have the electric motors running at the start of the process, but that you had to have the actions after starting the device start up the motor.

3c is specifically talking about electric motors for the up to three limit?

[chalker7]

I'm not sure it does. If you had a wind up toy set, but not moving at the start of the process, and then during the sequence something moved or activated the wind up toy so it could go, it seems like it might be more analgous to a mousetrap (preset spring) than a motor. I guess the other way to ask the question is would a wind up toy be an energy device or a motor.

I kind of thought 3f was referring to one could not have the electric motors running at the start of the process, but that you had to have the actions after starting the device start up the motor.

3c is specifically talking about electric motors for the up to three limit?

I would submit an official clarification on this question, because the exact wording of the rules is slightly ambiguous and confusing. It may be instructive for you to note that everything else listed in 3.c is referring to components that utilize and/or require electricity.

[mnstrviola]

General question: do rule clarifications on the national website apply for all competitions, including regional and state? Also, do rule clarifications on the state website apply for regional competitions?

thanks.

[chalker7]

General question: do rule clarifications on the national website apply for all competitions, including regional and state? Also, do rule clarifications on the state website apply for regional competitions?

thanks.

The official statement from the national website is, "The Official Rules Clarifications and FAQs apply to all states and all tournaments and originate at the national level (please check your regional or state website for additional information)." So, yes, they are intended to apply to every tournament. However, due to the large volume of tournaments (and correspondingly large number of supervisors), it is very difficult to actually enforce the clarifications at all levels. Different supervisors might have varying interpretations of things.
It is always best to both get an official national clarification and contact your local supervisors as well.

[mnstrviola]

General question: do rule clarifications on the national website apply for all competitions, including regional and state? Also, do rule clarifications on the state website apply for regional competitions?

thanks.

The official statement from the national website is, "The Official Rules Clarifications and FAQs apply to all states and all tournaments and originate at the national level (please check your regional or state website for additional information)." So, yes, they are intended to apply to every tournament. However, due to the large volume of tournaments (and correspondingly large number of supervisors), it is very difficult to actually enforce the clarifications at all levels. Different supervisors might have varying interpretations of things.
It is always best to both get an official national clarification and contact your local supervisors as well.

Okay, thanks Chalker7. Last year, the regional event supervisor for Junkyard Challenge said that they did not apply, so I was confused. I submitted an official rule clarification on that to my state website.

[Orchdork]

Does our device need to be 50cm by 50 cm by 80cm or can it be 80 cm by 50 cm by 50 cm? (Does the orientation matter?)????

[chalker7]

Does our device need to be 50cm by 50 cm by 80cm or can it be 80 cm by 50 cm by 50 cm? (Does the orientation matter?)????

Read rule 3.a very carefully.

[illusionist]

Does our device need to be 50cm by 50 cm by 80cm or can it be 80 cm by 50 cm by 50 cm? (Does the orientation matter?)????

Read rule 3.a very carefully.

Also, Chalker has previously answered this question for another person. Please look through the previous pages of the thread before asking a question. It may have already been answered.