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Re: BEARSO Invitational

Posted: October 5th, 2020, 7:27 am
by Giantpants
sciolyperson1 wrote: October 4th, 2020, 4:27 pm BEARSO memberships up to 87B/183C, total 270 teams.
https://scilympiad.com/bearso/Reg/School
Absolutely unreal. Honestly, the only thing scarier than the strength of the field is how the scoring distributions for the testing events will look :oops:

Re: BEARSO Invitational

Posted: October 5th, 2020, 7:40 am
by JonB
Giantpants wrote: October 5th, 2020, 7:27 am
sciolyperson1 wrote: October 4th, 2020, 4:27 pm BEARSO memberships up to 87B/183C, total 270 teams.
https://scilympiad.com/bearso/Reg/School
Absolutely unreal. Honestly, the only thing scarier than the strength of the field is how the scoring distributions for the testing events will look :oops:

Any Sci Oly "historians" can chime in here- is this the largest Div C competition (in terms of amount of teams) that has ever happened?

Re: BEARSO Invitational

Posted: October 5th, 2020, 7:42 am
by Giantpants
JonB wrote: October 5th, 2020, 7:40 am
Giantpants wrote: October 5th, 2020, 7:27 am
sciolyperson1 wrote: October 4th, 2020, 4:27 pm BEARSO memberships up to 87B/183C, total 270 teams.
https://scilympiad.com/bearso/Reg/School
Absolutely unreal. Honestly, the only thing scarier than the strength of the field is how the scoring distributions for the testing events will look :oops:

Any Sci Oly "historians" can chime in here- is this the largest Div C competition (in terms of amount of teams) that has ever happened?
Oh certainly! I think the largest single division one before this was MIT 2019 with 76 teams. (if there is a larger one then definitely let me know lol)

Re: BEARSO Invitational

Posted: October 5th, 2020, 7:46 am
by JonB
Giantpants wrote: October 5th, 2020, 7:42 am
JonB wrote: October 5th, 2020, 7:40 am
Giantpants wrote: October 5th, 2020, 7:27 am

Absolutely unreal. Honestly, the only thing scarier than the strength of the field is how the scoring distributions for the testing events will look :oops:

Any Sci Oly "historians" can chime in here- is this the largest Div C competition (in terms of amount of teams) that has ever happened?
Oh certainly! I think the largest single division one before this was MIT 2019 with 76 teams. (if there is a larger one then definitely let me know lol)

I think there are some state or regional tournaments that are really big, but I am not sure.

Re: BEARSO Invitational

Posted: October 5th, 2020, 8:14 am
by bearasauras
Yah, San Diego Regional has over 100 teams at their single division tournament.

Re: BEARSO Invitational

Posted: October 5th, 2020, 9:02 am
by sciolyperson1
bearasauras wrote: October 5th, 2020, 8:14 am Yah, San Diego Regional has over 100 teams at their single division tournament.
Is the NSO limit of 150 teams applied to regionals and states as well? Or does it only apply to invitationals?

Re: BEARSO Invitational

Posted: October 5th, 2020, 9:20 am
by Unome
I can confirm that this is definitely the largest in C, surpassing San Diego Regional's 100-ish. I'm pretty sure no invitational has topped 80 before. In B, San Diego Regional is typically in the vicinity of 120-ish.

I'm really curious where this 150-team limit comes from. I hear a lot about it but I haven't been able to find a reference.

Re: BEARSO Invitational

Posted: October 6th, 2020, 10:50 am
by nicholasmaurer
Unome wrote: October 5th, 2020, 9:20 am I can confirm that this is definitely the largest in C, surpassing San Diego Regional's 100-ish. I'm pretty sure no invitational has topped 80 before. In B, San Diego Regional is typically in the vicinity of 120-ish.

I'm really curious where this 150-team limit comes from. I hear a lot about it but I haven't been able to find a reference.
The limit was discussed in one of the national office's webinars on virtual tournaments. It was written in the slides but not published on the national website. It is unclear to me whether things written in these PowerPoints should be treated as binding rules; everything else that is binding has traditionally been published to the website...

Re: BEARSO Invitational

Posted: October 6th, 2020, 7:18 pm
by gz839918
bearasaurus wrote:
Just heard back from NSO and confirmed
A&P: 2 sheets per team (1 per person) as per COVID rule
Forensics: 2 sheets per team (1 per person) as per the rules
AVDestroyer wrote:
wait so correct me if im wrong, but both memers of a cybersecurity team can use 2 sheets right?
bearasaurus wrote:
yup, it says each team can bring 2, so following COVID rule, each member can bring 2
we'll probably change it in the future to be consistent with all the other evens
person-v132 wrote:
and if it says "Each team may bring one 8.5” x 11” sheet of paper" that means that each person can bring 1 sheet but the 2/3 sheets have to be the same?
bearasaurus wrote:
for examle
for A&P
each partner can have 1 sheet of notes
the partners can have identical sheets of notes or completely different
person-v132 wrote:
but if you were soloing the event you would only get 1 sheet of info
while other teams could have 2 if shared through chat
bearasaurus wrote:
right
A selected excerpt of a conversation in scioly.org/chat, with all quotes provided verbatim. "How many notesheets can I use?" has seen a lot of confusion, so hopefully this offers some preliminary clarification on what's allowed for BEARSO. Opinions expressed on this site are not official; the only place for official rules changes and FAQs is soinc.org.

Re: BEARSO Invitational

Posted: October 7th, 2020, 1:52 pm
by reninkidney
gz839918 wrote: October 6th, 2020, 7:18 pm
bearasaurus wrote:
Just heard back from NSO and confirmed
A&P: 2 sheets per team (1 per person) as per COVID rule
Forensics: 2 sheets per team (1 per person) as per the rules
AVDestroyer wrote:
wait so correct me if im wrong, but both memers of a cybersecurity team can use 2 sheets right?
bearasaurus wrote:
yup, it says each team can bring 2, so following COVID rule, each member can bring 2
we'll probably change it in the future to be consistent with all the other evens
person-v132 wrote:
and if it says "Each team may bring one 8.5” x 11” sheet of paper" that means that each person can bring 1 sheet but the 2/3 sheets have to be the same?
bearasaurus wrote:
for examle
for A&P
each partner can have 1 sheet of notes
the partners can have identical sheets of notes or completely different
person-v132 wrote:
but if you were soloing the event you would only get 1 sheet of info
while other teams could have 2 if shared through chat
bearasaurus wrote:
right
A selected excerpt of a conversation in scioly.org/chat, with all quotes provided verbatim. "How many notesheets can I use?" has seen a lot of confusion, so hopefully this offers some preliminary clarification on what's allowed for BEARSO. Opinions expressed on this site are not official; the only place for official rules changes and FAQs is soinc.org.
Just to clarify, does that mean for events where you are allowed 1 sheet of paper (like A&P), each partner can have their own separate sheet for a total of 2 sheets and for events which allow for 2 sheets of paper (like meteorology), each partner can have 2 sheets for a total of 4 sheets?