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lumosityfan wrote:

sciolyperson1 wrote:

drcubbin wrote:
Bay Academy just took 4th and 2nd (right behind Springhouse) at Harvard today and our "predicted" place for Cornell goes from 8th to 9th? I know anything is possible, but I think that crystal ball needs a little polishing

Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)

And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."

Lol Springhouse 3 years ago did worse than they did 4 years ago.. By that logic Bay is gonna get worse.

sciolyperson1 wrote:

lumosityfan wrote:

sciolyperson1 wrote:
Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)

And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."

Anything is possible, I never said that they couldn't beat them.

Except that your logic in thinking that Bay Academy went down from 8th to 9th is that the other 8 teams are "top tier nats teams" which is not the best case of logic if you're assuming that Bay Academy isn't one of those "top tier nats teams" (which through the results so far this year which is what we should be basing these predictions on as well show that they've done well against the "top tier nats teams" minus solon, beckendorff, piedmont, and marie murphy, whom they haven't faced so far this season)

lumosityfan wrote:

sciolyperson1 wrote:

drcubbin wrote:
Bay Academy just took 4th and 2nd (right behind Springhouse) at Harvard today and our "predicted" place for Cornell goes from 8th to 9th? I know anything is possible, but I think that crystal ball needs a little polishing

Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)

And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."

Thanks Luminosity! That's pretty much how I feel. If we didn't think advancement was possible, how would this list ever change? And no offense taken sciolyperson. We just keep plugging away. If it happens, it happens. Like Luminosity says, all of those in the "top 8" had to start somewhere. Right?

Paypog wrote:

lumosityfan wrote:

sciolyperson1 wrote:
Solon, Beckendorff, us, Springhouse, Gelinas, Piedmont, Marie Murphy, and SSA are all top tier nats teams. The teams got 1st, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 11th, 6th, (missed nats cuz of roller bomb), and 13th. In addition, Bedford got 25th and Goff got 19th. You guys might beat one or two schools in the top 8, but I think the placement will range from 7th to 10th. (Dont take any of this personally lol)

And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."

Lol Springhouse 3 years ago did worse than they did 4 years ago.. By that logic Bay is gonna get worse.

Derp 4 years ago then. My point is when Springhouse started bursting onto the SciOly scene and first qualified for nats. (I had a feeling I had the years off...)

lumosityfan wrote:

sciolyperson1 wrote:

lumosityfan wrote:
And who says that Bay Academy can't reach those heights either? Remember that Springhouse just 3 years ago was in Bay Academy's shoes. Same with Beckendorff. So it's not crazy to think that Bay Academy can't upend a couple of those "top tier nats teams."

Anything is possible, I never said that they couldn't beat them.

Except that your logic in thinking that Bay Academy went down from 8th to 9th is that the other 8 teams are "top tier nats teams" which is not the best case of logic if you're assuming that Bay Academy isn't one of those "top tier nats teams" (which through the results so far this year which is what we should be basing these predictions on as well show that they've done well against the "top tier nats teams" minus solon, beckendorff, piedmont, and marie murphy, whom they haven't faced so far this season)

Uh they haven't faced SSA yet..

Paypog wrote:

lumosityfan wrote:

sciolyperson1 wrote:
Anything is possible, I never said that they couldn't beat them.

Except that your logic in thinking that Bay Academy went down from 8th to 9th is that the other 8 teams are "top tier nats teams" which is not the best case of logic if you're assuming that Bay Academy isn't one of those "top tier nats teams" (which through the results so far this year which is what we should be basing these predictions on as well show that they've done well against the "top tier nats teams" minus solon, beckendorff, piedmont, and marie murphy, whom they haven't faced so far this season)

Uh they haven't faced SSA yet..

Oh derp true.

drcubbin wrote:Changing predictions already lol

1) Solon
2) Beckendorff
3) Community
4) Springhouse
5) Gelinas
6) Piedmont
7) Marie Murphy
8) SSA
9) Bay Academy
10) Eagle Hill
11) Goff
12) Bedford
13) Harlan Rowe

Bay Academy just took 4th and 2nd (right behind Springhouse) at Harvard today and our "predicted" place for Cornell goes from 8th to 9th? I know anything is possible, but I think that crystal ball needs a little polishing

Bay Academy is still 2nd of all the New York teams in this prediction. I think it's a pretty fair prediction for stacked scores (since trying to predict pure placement at invitationals is nearly impossible).

drcubbin wrote:Changing predictions already lol

1) Solon
2) Beckendorff
3) Community
4) Springhouse
5) Gelinas
6) Piedmont
7) Marie Murphy
8) SSA
9) Bay Academy
10) Eagle Hill
11) Goff
12) Bedford
13) Harlan Rowe

Bay Academy just took 4th and 2nd (right behind Springhouse) at Harvard today and our "predicted" place for Cornell goes from 8th to 9th? I know anything is possible, but I think that crystal ball needs a little polishing

My predictions:
Solon - First nats, first ohio
Beckendorff - 8th nats, First texas
Community - 3rd nats, first NJ
Springhouse - 5th nats, first PA
Gelinas - 11th nats, 1st NY
Piedmont - 6th nats, 1st n. carolina
Marie Murphy - 3rd illinois, lost because of a tier in 1 event (previously 2nd nats (2011, 2012), 8th in 2016
SSA - 13th nats, 2nd PA
Bay Academy - 5th NY, although you've been improving a lot
Eagle Hill - 4th NY, recently 14th-18th at nats (2015-2017)
Goff - 19th nats, 3rd NY
Bedford - 2th nats, 1st connecticut
Harlan rowe - 7th PA

I moved SSA up because of their amazing improvement at Solon (5th to 3rd this year), especially against many other good teams.

Harvard invy:
Springhouse - 5th nats, first PA
Bay Academy - 5th NY, although you've been improving a lot
Lyme - 2nd CT
Primoris - 6th at UCC NJ regionals
William Diamond - 2nd massachusetts (2016)

My predictions were based off of results from this season. The teams I placed above Bay are all extremely good and have placed very well at nats. I even placed Bay above Eagle Hill and Goff I'm not saying that you guys won't do well at states or even nats.

edit: fixing quotes oof

lumosityfan wrote:

Paypog wrote:

lumosityfan wrote:
Except that your logic in thinking that Bay Academy went down from 8th to 9th is that the other 8 teams are "top tier nats teams" which is not the best case of logic if you're assuming that Bay Academy isn't one of those "top tier nats teams" (which through the results so far this year which is what we should be basing these predictions on as well show that they've done well against the "top tier nats teams" minus solon, beckendorff, piedmont, and marie murphy, whom they haven't faced so far this season)

Uh they haven't faced SSA yet..

Oh derp true.

Ok, it's been a long day (and this old man needs his beauty rest)! But if you are saying we haven't faced Shady Side Academy (SSA?), we have... last year at Cornell. SSA - 2nd (103), Bay Academy - 5th (171). So here's my question, why is it that anyone who reads this knows my name and my school (which I couldn't be more proud of), while others sometimes post "unintentionally" inaccurate information at best, but not their names or schools? Any predictions on the responses I will receive?

drcubbin wrote:

lumosityfan wrote:

Paypog wrote:
Uh they haven't faced SSA yet..

Oh derp true.

Ok, it's been a long day (and this old man needs his beauty rest)! But if you are saying we haven't faced Shady Side Academy (SSA?), we have... last year at Cornell. SSA - 2nd (103), Bay Academy - 5th (171). So here's my question, why is it that anyone who reads this knows my name and my school (which I couldn't be more proud of), while others sometimes post "unintentionally" inaccurate information at best, but not their names or schools? Any predictions on the responses I will receive?

Generally references to teams facing other teams apply to the current year, unless otherwise specified. So, for the purposes of Paypog's statement, yes, Bay Academy and SSA have not met yet this year.

As for providing names and schools, that is something we as a site allow users to provide should they wish, but it is not something we require.