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Re: Politics

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In general, I do agree with D.S.B.

However, to pick out one particular topic for now:

What caused the deviations in the past, and how's the current situation different? Aside from the general consensus of the current scientific community firmly pulling in that direction, that is.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/abrupt-climat ... l%20Cycles

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-long-can- ... e_products

http://www.iceandclimate.nbi.ku.dk/rese ... ial_cycle/

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Wait... so what’s the point of the above links? We know it’s natural for the globe to heat up again, but even if it would have started naturally warming our added carbon emissions won’t be making it much better given we’ve pushed it past the PETM’s carbon ppm. Anthropogenic carbon is a major factor for climate change, a factor that cannot be ignored.
However, more than that we should not be denying climate change but instead adapting; a heated ocean creates more 5 class hurricanes, increased carbon in the ocean will make it more acidic and endanger all that use calcium in it (aka quite a few key components). As a DP scholar for 4 years, I know.
While we know that in the past the Earth was at these levels, we should also acknowledge that in the past humans were either not around or not around in force as we are today. If we do not start adapting we may not be in force as we are today in the future.
If that didn’t answer your question I have no idea what the question was asking.
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JoeyC wrote: September 30th, 2019, 4:22 am Wait... so what’s the point of the above links? We know it’s natural for the globe to heat up again, but even if it would have started naturally warming our added carbon emissions won’t be making it much better given we’ve pushed it past the PETM’s carbon ppm. Anthropogenic carbon is a major factor for climate change, a factor that cannot be ignored.
However, more than that we should not be denying climate change but instead adapting; a heated ocean creates more 5 class hurricanes, increased carbon in the ocean will make it more acidic and endanger all that use calcium in it (aka quite a few key components). As a DP scholar for 4 years, I know.
While we know that in the past the Earth was at these levels, we should also acknowledge that in the past humans were either not around or not around in force as we are today. If we do not start adapting we may not be in force as we are today in the future.
If that didn’t answer your question I have no idea what the question was asking.
It's worth noting that a hotter Earth would also begin to thaw Siberian permafrost, opening up vast new areas for farmland.
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But that would give Russia more land and ruin the Siberian gulag memes
Yeah but the immense amount of desertification in other regions is also worth noting - especially as there are much more people reliant on that land than people relaint on Siberia
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Unome wrote: September 30th, 2019, 5:59 am
JoeyC wrote: September 30th, 2019, 4:22 am Wait... so what’s the point of the above links? We know it’s natural for the globe to heat up again, but even if it would have started naturally warming our added carbon emissions won’t be making it much better given we’ve pushed it past the PETM’s carbon ppm. Anthropogenic carbon is a major factor for climate change, a factor that cannot be ignored.
However, more than that we should not be denying climate change but instead adapting; a heated ocean creates more 5 class hurricanes, increased carbon in the ocean will make it more acidic and endanger all that use calcium in it (aka quite a few key components). As a DP scholar for 4 years, I know.
While we know that in the past the Earth was at these levels, we should also acknowledge that in the past humans were either not around or not around in force as we are today. If we do not start adapting we may not be in force as we are today in the future.
If that didn’t answer your question I have no idea what the question was asking.
It's worth noting that a hotter Earth would also begin to thaw Siberian permafrost, opening up vast new areas for farmland.
*also releasing a millennia worth of disease*
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Things2do wrote: September 29th, 2019, 8:34 pm In general, I do agree with D.S.B.

However, to pick out one particular topic for now:

What caused the deviations in the past, and how's the current situation different? Aside from the general consensus of the current scientific community firmly pulling in that direction, that is.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/abrupt-climat ... l%20Cycles

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-long-can- ... e_products

http://www.iceandclimate.nbi.ku.dk/rese ... ial_cycle/

If all else fails, the replies should be entertaining...
It is not so much the temperature itself, but the rate of increase, that is pretty much a dead giveaway that human civilization has influenced the warming of Earth. Denying this is tantamount to willful ignorance.
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JoeyC wrote: September 30th, 2019, 8:21 am But that would give Russia more land and ruin the Siberian gulag memes
Without Stalin and gulag memes life wouldn't be worth laughing for.
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TheCrazyChemist wrote: September 30th, 2019, 9:34 am
JoeyC wrote: September 30th, 2019, 8:21 am But that would give Russia more land and ruin the Siberian gulag memes
Without Stalin and gulag memes life wouldn't be worth laughing for.
Now gulag people can plant crops yeet

Off to gulag for hard farming you go
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Re: Politics

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Things2do wrote: September 29th, 2019, 8:34 pm In general, I do agree with D.S.B.

However, to pick out one particular topic for now:

What caused the deviations in the past, and how's the current situation different? Aside from the general consensus of the current scientific community firmly pulling in that direction, that is.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/abrupt-climat ... l%20Cycles

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-long-can- ... e_products

http://www.iceandclimate.nbi.ku.dk/rese ... ial_cycle/

If all else fails, the replies should be entertaining...
Jesus I don't think I've ever met a person who does scioly and doesn't believe in Climate Change...
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Re: Politics

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MadCow2357 wrote: September 30th, 2019, 5:22 pm
Things2do wrote: September 29th, 2019, 8:34 pm In general, I do agree with D.S.B.

However, to pick out one particular topic for now:

What caused the deviations in the past, and how's the current situation different? Aside from the general consensus of the current scientific community firmly pulling in that direction, that is.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/abrupt-climat ... l%20Cycles

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-long-can- ... e_products

http://www.iceandclimate.nbi.ku.dk/rese ... ial_cycle/

If all else fails, the replies should be entertaining...
Jesus I don't think I've ever met a person who does scioly and doesn't believe in Climate Change...
T2D is not denying climate change, only acknowledging the fact that it has existed before we were around and asking us how humans have affected or worsened it.
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