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Re: Blocks Task

Posted: January 17th, 2011, 4:10 pm
by questionguy
Antinoch wrote:So the next event has to be triggered by weight? That's the only thing I can think of that uses the whole stack.
Not necessarily, you can wrap each one in aluminum foil and use the last block to connect a circuit

Re: Blocks Task

Posted: January 17th, 2011, 5:10 pm
by Primate
Antinoch wrote:So the next event has to be triggered by weight? That's the only thing I can think of that uses the whole stack.
You could potentially use height, too. A microswitch at the level of the whole stack would do it.

Re: Blocks Task

Posted: January 18th, 2011, 2:28 pm
by zcshiner
Primate wrote:You could potentially use height, too. A microswitch at the level of the whole stack would do it.
That would be if you were stacking the blocks from the bottom up, right?

Re: Blocks Task

Posted: January 18th, 2011, 5:27 pm
by ichaelm
zcshiner wrote:
Primate wrote:You could potentially use height, too. A microswitch at the level of the whole stack would do it.
That would be if you were stacking the blocks from the bottom up, right?
As opposed to...

Re: Blocks Task

Posted: January 18th, 2011, 5:44 pm
by AlphaTauri
I don't think there's any other way to stack blocks...

Re: Blocks Task

Posted: January 18th, 2011, 6:08 pm
by zcshiner
AlphaTauri wrote:I don't think there's any other way to stack blocks...
Bad phrasing on my part. If one were to use a microswitch at the top level, assuming the blocks are being lowered or dropped, each would pass by that microswitch triggering it on its way down. That's no good. The microswitch should be triggered when the top block is in position. I was implying that they would have to be raised (somehow) hence bottom up. I'm not sure how else you would trigger a microswitch only when the top block is in position.

Re: Blocks Task

Posted: January 18th, 2011, 6:31 pm
by Primate
zcshiner wrote:
AlphaTauri wrote:I don't think there's any other way to stack blocks...
Bad phrasing on my part. If one were to use a microswitch at the top level, assuming the blocks are being lowered or dropped, each would pass by that microswitch triggering it on its way down. That's no good. The microswitch should be triggered when the top block is in position. I was implying that they would have to be raised (somehow) hence bottom up. I'm not sure how else you would trigger a microswitch only when the top block is in position.
I was envisioning drilling holes through each block, and running a string through them. Tighten the string vertically, and there's your stack of blocks and a triggered microswitch. (Of course, you'd have to loosen the string back up so that the stack wasn't "supported" by the string.)

Re: Blocks Task

Posted: February 13th, 2011, 7:28 pm
by yousmellchinese123
So, for this task, I just want to ask for your thoughts on a clarification.

The clarification states, "•01/11/2011 - 17:48 Can the blocks have a rod going through the middle?
According to the rules, each block must completely support the blocks stacked on top of it. If the judge decides that a block is resting on a rod going through the middle of the blocks, the rod would be supporting some of the block and then the task would not be considered complete. "

I was thinking of running fishing wire through the middle, and the thought that the block may touch the wire has frightened me. Do you think that most judges would consider the slight tough of block and wire not "fully supporting" the block on top of it?

Thank you in advance!

Re: Blocks Task

Posted: February 13th, 2011, 7:48 pm
by fleet130
zcshiner wrote:I'm not sure how else you would trigger a microswitch only when the top block is in position.
Use 2 switches (one for the last block and one for the next-to-last block) wired as an AND circuit (switches in series). The current can only pass through when both blocks are in place at the same time.

Re: Blocks Task

Posted: February 14th, 2011, 2:08 am
by Primate
yousmellchinese123 wrote:So, for this task, I just want to ask for your thoughts on a clarification.

The clarification states, "•01/11/2011 - 17:48 Can the blocks have a rod going through the middle?
According to the rules, each block must completely support the blocks stacked on top of it. If the judge decides that a block is resting on a rod going through the middle of the blocks, the rod would be supporting some of the block and then the task would not be considered complete. "

I was thinking of running fishing wire through the middle, and the thought that the block may touch the wire has frightened me. Do you think that most judges would consider the slight tough of block and wire not "fully supporting" the block on top of it?

Thank you in advance!
My personal philosophy is that if the blocks still stack if you slacken the string, it counts. Of course, my personal philosophy isn't what matters here. (They've accepted it at invitationals and regionals so far, but neither judge was very strict.)