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Re: Unofficial Rankings C
Posted: May 9th, 2019, 7:06 pm
by rabbitman
builderguy135 wrote:pb5754[] wrote:windu34 wrote:
I think you make good points - I would definitely trust Upenn results more than NJ states results
This is true, although I would note that South (and North) had multiple people missing due to a math competition.
hmmt?
yea. superscored south iirc was very close to superscored north at soup while missing their seniors (correct me if im wrong)
Re: Unofficial Rankings C
Posted: May 9th, 2019, 7:44 pm
by sciolyperson1
rabbitman wrote:builderguy135 wrote:pb5754[] wrote:
This is true, although I would note that South (and North) had multiple people missing due to a math competition.
hmmt?
yea. superscored south iirc was very close to superscored north at soup while missing their seniors (correct me if im wrong)
South superscored:
4 + 10 + 3 + 11 + 6 + 20 + 1 + 12 + 9 + 2 + 22 + 15 + 13 + 3 + 3 + 21 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 6 + 1 + 6 + 16 = 205
North superscored:
3 + 9 + 11 + 13 + 28 + 7 + 3 + 7 + 1 + 6 + 6 + 8 + 1 + 4 + 4 + 16 + 4 + 2 + 6 + 21 + 9 + 3 + 1 = 173
Re: Unofficial Rankings C
Posted: May 10th, 2019, 5:26 pm
by randomperson123
Selundar wrote:randomperson123 wrote:1. Troy (CA)
2. Solon (OH)
3. Mason (OH)
4. Acton Boxborough Regional High School (MA)
5. Mounds View (MN)
6. Harriton (PA)
7. Seven Lakes High School (TX)
8. Columbia (NY)
9. Adlai E. Stevenson (IL)
10. Mira Loma (CA)
11. Boca Raton Community HS (FL)
12. New Trier (IL)
13. WWP South (NJ)
14. TJHSST (VA)
15. Enloe (NC)
16. Bayard Rustin (PA)
17. Ward Melville (NY)
18. Brookwood (GA)
19. NCSSM (NC)
20. Northville (MI)
21. Clark (NV)
22. Pembroke Hill (MO)
23. Chattahoochee (GA)
24. Madison West (WI)
25. Bothell (WA)
This list is actually very close to my current personal predictions with almost all teams being within 3 places of what I expect with only a few exceptions.
First, I think TJHSST is a little too high. I agree that they look much stronger than last year but I don’t see them placing higher than around 17th. It is worth noting that they were beaten by Ward Melville at Cornell, albeit by a relatively small margin.
After reviewing Wisconsin results and comparing top scores to previous years, I think Madison West has a good chance to crack the top 20 this year. I think I also initially placed NCSSM a little too high, mostly due to a lack of knowledge about Enloe’s Boomilever placement.
I think WWPS is probably the hardest team to predict this year. I originally placed them at 6th but could easily see them end up closer to 13th where you put them. The main problem is that the only tournament where they had all their team members and stacked was NJ States, so we really don’t know how a stacked WWPS would compare to other teams. I think that South has the same or similar potential as North. However, people lack confidence in them because they don’t have any unexpectedly strong invitational results to back up their strength like North getting 3rd at SOUP without being fully stacked.
TJHSST may have lost to Ward Melville at Cornell, but this was largely due to major bombs in almost all build events. Based on their states results these seemed to have been resolved. The reaon I have them above Enloe is because at the Duke competition, TJ went in completely unstacked while Enloe was already stacked. Its interesting note that superscored TJ and Enloe would've tied with 71.
Re: Unofficial Rankings C
Posted: May 10th, 2019, 5:44 pm
by 4Head
Solon
Mounds View
Mason
Troy
Acton-Boxborough
Mira Loma
Harriton
Columbia
Seven Lakes
Stevenson
Re: Unofficial Rankings C
Posted: May 10th, 2019, 5:58 pm
by dxu46
4Head wrote:Solon
Mounds View
Mason
Troy
Acton-Boxborough
Mira Loma
Harriton
Columbia
Seven Lakes
Stevenson
Not predicting Troy 1st, what a legend.
Re: Unofficial Rankings C
Posted: May 10th, 2019, 6:18 pm
by TheSquaad
dxu46 wrote:4Head wrote:Solon
Mounds View
Mason
Troy
Acton-Boxborough
Mira Loma
Harriton
Columbia
Seven Lakes
Stevenson
Not predicting Troy 1st, what a legend.
It’s gonna happen some year
Re: Unofficial Rankings C
Posted: May 10th, 2019, 6:25 pm
by Rossyspsce
TheSquaad wrote:dxu46 wrote:4Head wrote:Solon
Mounds View
Mason
Troy
Acton-Boxborough
Mira Loma
Harriton
Columbia
Seven Lakes
Stevenson
Not predicting Troy 1st, what a legend.
It’s gonna happen some year
what makes you think they've fallen so far, their builds look very strong compared to other Troy teams
Re: Unofficial Rankings C
Posted: May 10th, 2019, 7:40 pm
by windu34
Nationals Predictions
1.) Troy (CA)
2.) Solon (OH)
3.) Mason (OH)
4.) Acton Boxborough (MA)
5.) Mounds View (MN)
6.) Seven Lakes (TX)
7.) Harriton (PA)
8.) West Windsor Plainsboro South (NJ)
9.) Adlai E. Stevenson (IL)
10.) Boca Raton (FL)
11.) Mira Loma (CA)
12.) Columbia (NY)
13.) New Trier (IL)
14.) Enloe (NC)
15.) Ward Melville (NY)
This is a tough one for me because I'm a bit out of the loop compared to what I used to know about teams, but I think most of the top 10 will fall +/- 2 or 3 places within those. I still think Troy will win and it looks to me like Solon is right up there with them. Mason looks weaker than the previous two years. Acton is looking very strong this year. I dont know exactly what has happened to Mira Loma and Harriton since I was a competitor, but this is what the current results that we have are indicating. This is Boca Raton's strongest year yet, and I think this will be the year they break top 10.
Re: Unofficial Rankings C
Posted: May 10th, 2019, 8:13 pm
by 4Head
Rossyspsce wrote:TheSquaad wrote:dxu46 wrote:
Not predicting Troy 1st, what a legend.
It’s gonna happen some year
what makes you think they've fallen so far, their builds look very strong compared to other Troy teams
I’ve seen 14 million futures
Re: Unofficial Rankings C
Posted: May 10th, 2019, 9:05 pm
by kate!
windu34 wrote:Nationals Predictions
1.) Troy (CA)
2.) Solon (OH)
3.) Mason (OH)
4.) Acton Boxborough (MA)
5.) Mounds View (MN)
6.) Seven Lakes (TX)
7.) Harriton (PA)
8.) West Windsor Plainsboro South (NJ)
9.) Adlai E. Stevenson (IL)
10.) Boca Raton (FL)
11.) Mira Loma (CA)
12.) Columbia (NY)
13.) New Trier (IL)
14.) Enloe (NC)
15.) Ward Melville (NY)
This is a tough one for me because I'm a bit out of the loop compared to what I used to know about teams, but I think most of the top 10 will fall +/- 2 or 3 places within those. I still think Troy will win and it looks to me like Solon is right up there with them. Mason looks weaker than the previous two years. Acton is looking very strong this year. I dont know exactly what has happened to Mira Loma and Harriton since I was a competitor, but this is what the current results that we have are indicating. This is Boca Raton's strongest year yet, and I think this will be the year they break top 10.
Why is Ward Melville so high, where's Rustin, and why is Columbia so low?