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what are the top 3 most competitive states?
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19alekb wrote:what are the top 3 most competitive states?
For div B probably SoCal, PA, and NY maybe?
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pb5754[] wrote:
19alekb wrote:what are the top 3 most competitive states?
For div B probably SoCal, PA, and NY maybe?
Yeah, SoCal seems very competitive. NY is really competitive for second, Gelinas always wins. In Pennsylvania, Springhouse dominates(I think)? Really, the second place team is competitive. In CT, Bedford and Lyme Old Lyme are quite compteitive. Really, you can get at most 60 points in Connecticut to win. New Jersey is swept by Community. I think Illinois and Ohio are both battles for second since Daniel Wright JHS and Solon win there. So, if you mean competitive for 1st place, it honestly might be Connecticut. However, if you also include states with 2 bids, it's probably NY and PA.
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pb5754[] wrote:
19alekb wrote:what are the top 3 most competitive states?
For div B probably SoCal, PA, and NY maybe?
Yeah, SoCal seems very competitive. NY is really competitive for second, Gelinas always wins. In Pennsylvania, Springhouse dominates(I think)? Really, the second place team is competitive. In CT, Bedford and Lyme Old Lyme are quite compteitive. Really, you can get at most 60 points in Connecticut to win. New Jersey is swept by Community. I think Illinois and Ohio are both battles for second since Daniel Wright JHS and Solon win there. So, if you mean competitive for 1st place, it honestly might be Connecticut. However, if you also include states with 2 bids, it's probably NY and PA.
But also keep in mind that the whole entire level in Connecticut is slightly lower that those other states. Bedford will probably place around 20th this year, while the other states all place in the top 10 at nats.
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pb5754[] wrote: For div B probably SoCal, PA, and NY maybe?
Yeah, SoCal seems very competitive. NY is really competitive for second, Gelinas always wins. In Pennsylvania, Springhouse dominates(I think)? Really, the second place team is competitive. In CT, Bedford and Lyme Old Lyme are quite compteitive. Really, you can get at most 60 points in Connecticut to win. New Jersey is swept by Community. I think Illinois and Ohio are both battles for second since Daniel Wright JHS and Solon win there. So, if you mean competitive for 1st place, it honestly might be Connecticut. However, if you also include states with 2 bids, it's probably NY and PA.
But also keep in mind that the whole entire level in Connecticut is slightly lower that those other states. Bedford will probably place around 20th this year, while the other states all place in the top 10 at nats.
connecticut rlly isn’t competitive at all comparatively to other states tbh. i’d agree on socal ny and pa, with ny and pa being mostly competitive for the second place spot like you said.
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19alekb wrote:what are the top 3 most competitive states?
Socal, Norcal - very very competitive teams come from this region, and scores are always close (Kraemer/JT and Kennedy/Churchill). I wouldn't say that Pennsylvania or New York are all that competitive though, if anything, the invitationals around it like Rustin and Cornell are far more competitive than PA or NY states themselves.

As for Ohio, Illinois, etc, dont kill me, but idt they're all that competitive. Yes, Solon and Daniel Wright do well at nats annually, but do the top teams really change? Most teams in those states are competing for 2nd place, not first.
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sciolyperson1 wrote:
19alekb wrote:what are the top 3 most competitive states?
Socal, Norcal - very very competitive teams come from this region, and scores are always close (Kraemer/JT and Kennedy/Churchill). I wouldn't say that Pennsylvania or New York are all that competitive though, if anything, the invitationals around it like Rustin and Cornell are far more competitive than PA or NY states themselves.

As for Ohio, Illinois, etc, dont kill me, but idt they're all that competitive. Yes, Solon and Daniel Wright do well at nats annually, but do the top teams really change? Most teams in those states are competing for 2nd place, not first.
NY states was a battle for second. I'm thinking that PA states will be the same. I completely forgot about NorCal since I don't really know much about any teams I don't compete with, but that's that. What state do you think is the most competitive besides NorCal and SoCal for first place?
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TheCrazyChemist wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
19alekb wrote:what are the top 3 most competitive states?
Socal, Norcal - very very competitive teams come from this region, and scores are always close (Kraemer/JT and Kennedy/Churchill). I wouldn't say that Pennsylvania or New York are all that competitive though, if anything, the invitationals around it like Rustin and Cornell are far more competitive than PA or NY states themselves.

As for Ohio, Illinois, etc, dont kill me, but idt they're all that competitive. Yes, Solon and Daniel Wright do well at nats annually, but do the top teams really change? Most teams in those states are competing for 2nd place, not first.
NY states was a battle for second. I'm thinking that PA states will be the same. I completely forgot about NorCal since I don't really know much about any teams I don't compete with, but that's that. What state do you think is the most competitive besides NorCal and SoCal for first place?
Missouri is pretty competitive i guess
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TheCrazyChemist wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
19alekb wrote:what are the top 3 most competitive states?
Socal, Norcal - very very competitive teams come from this region, and scores are always close (Kraemer/JT and Kennedy/Churchill). I wouldn't say that Pennsylvania or New York are all that competitive though, if anything, the invitationals around it like Rustin and Cornell are far more competitive than PA or NY states themselves.

As for Ohio, Illinois, etc, dont kill me, but idt they're all that competitive. Yes, Solon and Daniel Wright do well at nats annually, but do the top teams really change? Most teams in those states are competing for 2nd place, not first.
NY states was a battle for second. I'm thinking that PA states will be the same. I completely forgot about NorCal since I don't really know much about any teams I don't compete with, but that's that. What state do you think is the most competitive besides NorCal and SoCal for first place?
Personally I think that this year NY B wasn't actually as competitive as last year. Yes, there were more schools trying to get 2nd, but the scores were way farther apart (besides the score between 3rd and 4th) and it felt like not every top 5 school actually placed consistently. Also, if we're comparing this to last year, in 2018 Gelinas and Bay Academy had 3 gold medals, Murphy had 4, Goff/Eagle Hill had 2. This year, Gelinas had 10, Murphy and Bay Academy had 2, Goff had none, and Eagle Hill had 5. Clearly, Gelinas and Eagle Hill dominated the competition far more in 2019 and for that reason I don't think it was as competitive as everyone is making it out to be.
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kate! wrote:
TheCrazyChemist wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:
Socal, Norcal - very very competitive teams come from this region, and scores are always close (Kraemer/JT and Kennedy/Churchill). I wouldn't say that Pennsylvania or New York are all that competitive though, if anything, the invitationals around it like Rustin and Cornell are far more competitive than PA or NY states themselves.

As for Ohio, Illinois, etc, dont kill me, but idt they're all that competitive. Yes, Solon and Daniel Wright do well at nats annually, but do the top teams really change? Most teams in those states are competing for 2nd place, not first.
NY states was a battle for second. I'm thinking that PA states will be the same. I completely forgot about NorCal since I don't really know much about any teams I don't compete with, but that's that. What state do you think is the most competitive besides NorCal and SoCal for first place?
Personally I think that this year NY B wasn't actually as competitive as last year. Yes, there were more schools trying to get 2nd, but the scores were way farther apart (besides the score between 3rd and 4th) and it felt like not every top 5 school actually placed consistently. Also, if we're comparing this to last year, in 2018 Gelinas and Bay Academy had 3 gold medals, Murphy had 4, Goff/Eagle Hill had 2. This year, Gelinas had 10, Murphy and Bay Academy had 2, Goff had none, and Eagle Hill had 5. Clearly, Gelinas and Eagle Hill dominated the competition far more in 2019 and for that reason I don't think it was as competitive as everyone is making it out to be.
If you put it that way I guess. Also, what happened with roller coaster? I heard there was a scoring mistake or something.
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