2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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Re: 2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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It really isn't a shame for the national teams. New York and Pennsylvania are very competitive states so teams have to work very hard if they expect to qualify for nationals. As a result, the teams that do make nationals have worked very hard to win their state and are in a good position to contend at nationals. Having the competition close to nationals also minimizes the chance that a team will slack off between States and Nationals which means that New York and Pennsylvania (and other good states with late State tournaments) will almost always have good showings at nationals. The only one at a disadvantage might be the 3rd place teams from those states who work incredibly hard but still don't go to nationals. But ultimately, learning a little bit extra isn't a bad thing.
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Re: 2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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Paradox21 wrote:It really isn't a shame for the national teams. New York and Pennsylvania are very competitive states so teams have to work very hard if they expect to qualify for nationals. As a result, the teams that do make nationals have worked very hard to win their state and are in a good position to contend at nationals. Having the competition close to nationals also minimizes the chance that a team will slack off between States and Nationals which means that New York and Pennsylvania (and other good states with late State tournaments) will almost always have good showings at nationals. The only one at a disadvantage might be the 3rd place teams from those states who work incredibly hard but still don't go to nationals. But ultimately, learning a little bit extra isn't a bad thing.
unfortunately, thats not always the case. for building events, esp like bridge, they have like....2 weeks to build a completely new bridge to compete at a tournament multiple times harder than states... its a surprise teams from ny and penn still do so well at nats, maybe its because ny is the most competitive and penn is up there too... =/
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Re: 2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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swimmmm wrote:
Paradox21 wrote:It really isn't a shame for the national teams. New York and Pennsylvania are very competitive states so teams have to work very hard if they expect to qualify for nationals. As a result, the teams that do make nationals have worked very hard to win their state and are in a good position to contend at nationals. Having the competition close to nationals also minimizes the chance that a team will slack off between States and Nationals which means that New York and Pennsylvania (and other good states with late State tournaments) will almost always have good showings at nationals. The only one at a disadvantage might be the 3rd place teams from those states who work incredibly hard but still don't go to nationals. But ultimately, learning a little bit extra isn't a bad thing.
unfortunately, thats not always the case. for building events, esp like bridge, they have like....2 weeks to build a completely new bridge to compete at a tournament multiple times harder than states... its a surprise teams from ny and penn still do so well at nats, maybe its because ny is the most competitive and penn is up there too... =/
Thing is, at NY and Penn states the competition is pretty close to nats level. So 2 weeks is plenty of time to build another bridge, and everything else you already prepared up to nats levels before hand.
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Re: 2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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starpug wrote:
swimmmm wrote:
Paradox21 wrote:It really isn't a shame for the national teams. New York and Pennsylvania are very competitive states so teams have to work very hard if they expect to qualify for nationals. As a result, the teams that do make nationals have worked very hard to win their state and are in a good position to contend at nationals. Having the competition close to nationals also minimizes the chance that a team will slack off between States and Nationals which means that New York and Pennsylvania (and other good states with late State tournaments) will almost always have good showings at nationals. The only one at a disadvantage might be the 3rd place teams from those states who work incredibly hard but still don't go to nationals. But ultimately, learning a little bit extra isn't a bad thing.
unfortunately, thats not always the case. for building events, esp like bridge, they have like....2 weeks to build a completely new bridge to compete at a tournament multiple times harder than states... its a surprise teams from ny and penn still do so well at nats, maybe its because ny is the most competitive and penn is up there too... =/
Thing is, at NY and Penn states the competition is pretty close to nats level. So 2 weeks is plenty of time to build another bridge, and everything else you already prepared up to nats levels before hand.
lol that is true... and our B team never gets above like 25th in states so idk.. but our C states is in 2 days.... and were hoping to get into nats we have a good chance... in my opinion
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Re: 2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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swimmmm wrote: were hoping to get into nats we have a good chance... in my opinion
Uh-oh. As a Ward Melville team member, that sounds like a threat xD

Just kidding, good luck :-)
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Re: 2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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Re: 2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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sciolyandmathcounts wrote:Is there a way I can get an event list online for B&C? I lost mine. Thanks.

http://soinc.org/ should have one...
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Re: 2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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Phenylethylamine wrote:
swimmmm wrote: were hoping to get into nats we have a good chance... in my opinion
Uh-oh. As a Ward Melville team member, that sounds like a threat xD

Just kidding, good luck :-)
hahahaha you toooo =]
and honestly, irdk... i think we might be able to, but team members are more pessimistic than me... =/ idkkkkkkkk
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Re: 2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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swimmmm wrote: and honestly, irdk... i think we might be able to, but team members are more pessimistic than me... =/ idkkkkkkkk
That's an understatement. :?
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Re: 2010 National Tournament: University of Illinois

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swimmmm wrote:its a surprise teams from ny and penn still do so well at nats, maybe its because ny is the most competitive and penn is up there too... =/
I don't want to start the debate about most competitive state again, but at this point Ohio is definitely the most competitive because they're so deep.
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