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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Posted: November 2nd, 2018, 9:49 pm
by dxu46
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Wait, is it new that Experimental Design is in the at-the-beginning-of-the-competition time block (same block as Disease Detectives)? Do we know how definite this is?
IIRC, and according to my sister who did expd at nats for 5 years, expd didn't use to be in the morning because she also did disease, which has always been at 7.

Re: Experimental Design B/C

Posted: November 3rd, 2018, 6:58 am
by Unome
dxu46 wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Wait, is it new that Experimental Design is in the at-the-beginning-of-the-competition time block (same block as Disease Detectives)? Do we know how definite this is?
IIRC, and according to my sister who did expd at nats for 5 years, expd didn't use to be in the morning because she also did disease, which has always been at 7.
Experimental Design has been in the morning on one occasion in the past, in 2017 (and will be there again this year).

Re: Experimental Design B/C

Posted: November 3rd, 2018, 7:12 am
by Ruby
I was just wondering what the "halfway" cut off for the checklist was. Does anyone know?

Re: Experimental Design B/C

Posted: November 3rd, 2018, 7:18 am
by Anomaly
Ruby wrote:I was just wondering what the "halfway" cut off for the checklist was. Does anyone know?
I believe up until the Quantitative Data section is the first half and then after 20 minutes they'll give you the Graphs and everything after that section. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, too lazy to look at rules right now.

Re: Experimental Design B/C

Posted: November 3rd, 2018, 10:29 am
by Jacobi
Anomaly wrote:
Ruby wrote:I was just wondering what the "halfway" cut off for the checklist was. Does anyone know?
I believe up until the Quantitative Data section is the first half and then after 20 minutes they'll give you the Graphs and everything after that section. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, too lazy to look at rules right now.
That's right. If you use a standard writer + 2 experiment runners setup, you might have the writer help with the experiment.

Re: Experimental Design B/C

Posted: November 13th, 2018, 10:44 am
by Ender1982
So the scoring packet here: https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... 101018.pdf


1.) Is analysis really only half a page?
2.) is procedure really only half a page?

I didn't see where in the rules it says we can ask for more paper during the event.

So yeah......

Re: Experimental Design B/C

Posted: November 13th, 2018, 12:17 pm
by kate!
Ender1982 wrote:So the scoring packet here: https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... 101018.pdf


1.) Is analysis really only half a page?
2.) is procedure really only half a page?

I didn't see where in the rules it says we can ask for more paper during the event.

So yeah......
Not every proctor follows this form. Plus, the rules don't say you can't ask for more paper. I think most proctors would be pretty lenient, because some people have larger handwriting or more to write.

Re: Experimental Design B/C

Posted: November 13th, 2018, 12:37 pm
by UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F
kate! wrote:
Ender1982 wrote:So the scoring packet here: https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... 101018.pdf


1.) Is analysis really only half a page?
2.) is procedure really only half a page?

I didn't see where in the rules it says we can ask for more paper during the event.

So yeah......
Not every proctor follows this form. Plus, the rules don't say you can't ask for more paper. I think most proctors would be pretty lenient, because some people have larger handwriting or more to write.
After all, tiny handwriting is harder to grade

Re: Experimental Design B/C

Posted: November 13th, 2018, 2:22 pm
by dxu46
Ender1982 wrote:So the scoring packet here: https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... 101018.pdf


1.) Is analysis really only half a page?
2.) is procedure really only half a page?

I didn't see where in the rules it says we can ask for more paper during the event.

So yeah......
They're more like guidelines (if you're writing many many pages, then you're probably doing something wrong, same if you only write a sentence.)

Re: Experimental Design B/C

Posted: November 13th, 2018, 2:57 pm
by Jacobi
dxu46 wrote:
Ender1982 wrote:So the scoring packet here: https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... 101018.pdf


1.) Is analysis really only half a page?
2.) is procedure really only half a page?

I didn't see where in the rules it says we can ask for more paper during the event.

So yeah......
They're more like guidelines (if you're writing many many pages, then you're probably doing something wrong, same if you only write a sentence.)
I think that procedure shouldn't take longer than that unless you're doing a complex experiment. You may want to extend diagrams up to the E section, or on the back.

In general, you should be able to ask for more paper, or use the back of the page they give.