To determine whether or not the diode is forwards or reverse biased, you need to look at the voltage across the diode. Here, the anode is indeed at 4V, but we have no idea what voltage the cathode is. Thus we can't find the voltage across the diode. If the cathode is at a lower voltage, then the diode is forwards biased and conducts. Otherwise, it's reverse biased. The problem is we don't know the cathode voltage. The way I initially solved the problem is to just assume that the diode is forward biased and is dropping 0.75 V and apply KVL/KCL. But then, I ended up with current flowing backwards through the right diode. This suggests that the diode might actually be reverse biased. Using this assumption, we try again and ignore the right half (since no current flows). As it turns out, the voltage at the cathode using this assumption is 6.432 V which is consistent with the assumption that the right diode is reverse biased since the voltage across the diode is now -2.432 V.jaggie34 wrote:Why would you ignore the right side, isn't the diode not in reverse bias in respect to the 4V source?knightmoves wrote:As drawn, the 12 and 6 ohm resistors are in parallel, so can be replaced by a single 4 ohm resistor.
The right hand loop on the picture is irrelevant, as the diode is reverse biased and does not conduct (proof left as an exercise for the reader).
So you have a simple loop circuit with a diode and 7 ohms of resistance, so i = 11.25/7 = 1.607A.
Now consider the 6 and 12 ohm resistors separately again. 1/3 of the current goes through the 12 ohm resistor (1/3 of the conductance), so answer = 0.536 A.
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The 12 volt battery source overpowers the 4 volt source.jaggie34 wrote:Why would you ignore the right side, isn't the diode not in reverse bias in respect to the 4V source?knightmoves wrote:As drawn, the 12 and 6 ohm resistors are in parallel, so can be replaced by a single 4 ohm resistor.
The right hand loop on the picture is irrelevant, as the diode is reverse biased and does not conduct (proof left as an exercise for the reader).
So you have a simple loop circuit with a diode and 7 ohms of resistance, so i = 11.25/7 = 1.607A.
Now consider the 6 and 12 ohm resistors separately again. 1/3 of the current goes through the 12 ohm resistor (1/3 of the conductance), so answer = 0.536 A.
Edit: Whoops, I see a more detailed explanation has already been posted...
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I have a question about the rules regarding a possible contradiction.
3. c. The test will consist of at least one question from each of the following areas:
xiii. Division C only - Electrical characteristics of a silicon PN junction
3. d. Topics not included in the competition are: semiconductors, AC circuit theory, inductance, non-linear
devices, three-state logic gates, sequential logic, and oscilloscopes.
Aren't silicon PN junctions a semiconductor topic? If so, doesn't this mean that the rules contradict themselves, since they require a topic explicitly stated not to be in the test to be in the test?
3. c. The test will consist of at least one question from each of the following areas:
xiii. Division C only - Electrical characteristics of a silicon PN junction
3. d. Topics not included in the competition are: semiconductors, AC circuit theory, inductance, non-linear
devices, three-state logic gates, sequential logic, and oscilloscopes.
Aren't silicon PN junctions a semiconductor topic? If so, doesn't this mean that the rules contradict themselves, since they require a topic explicitly stated not to be in the test to be in the test?
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Yes, silicon PN junctions are semiconductors. My guess is that Division C includes silicon PN junctions but no other semiconductor topics.DocThorium wrote:I have a question about the rules regarding a possible contradiction.
3. c. The test will consist of at least one question from each of the following areas:
xiii. Division C only - Electrical characteristics of a silicon PN junction
3. d. Topics not included in the competition are: semiconductors, AC circuit theory, inductance, non-linear
devices, three-state logic gates, sequential logic, and oscilloscopes.
Aren't silicon PN junctions a semiconductor topic? If so, doesn't this mean that the rules contradict themselves, since they require a topic explicitly stated not to be in the test to be in the test?
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Wouldn't that still be a contradiction in the rules, though?UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Yes, silicon PN junctions are semiconductors. My guess is that Division C includes silicon PN junctions but no other semiconductor topics.DocThorium wrote:I have a question about the rules regarding a possible contradiction.
3. c. The test will consist of at least one question from each of the following areas:
xiii. Division C only - Electrical characteristics of a silicon PN junction
3. d. Topics not included in the competition are: semiconductors, AC circuit theory, inductance, non-linear
devices, three-state logic gates, sequential logic, and oscilloscopes.
Aren't silicon PN junctions a semiconductor topic? If so, doesn't this mean that the rules contradict themselves, since they require a topic explicitly stated not to be in the test to be in the test?
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To me, it sounds more like a exception rule 3.d. than a contradiction of it.DocThorium wrote:Wouldn't that still be a contradiction in the rules, though?UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Yes, silicon PN junctions are semiconductors. My guess is that Division C includes silicon PN junctions but no other semiconductor topics.DocThorium wrote:I have a question about the rules regarding a possible contradiction.
3. c. The test will consist of at least one question from each of the following areas:
xiii. Division C only - Electrical characteristics of a silicon PN junction
3. d. Topics not included in the competition are: semiconductors, AC circuit theory, inductance, non-linear
devices, three-state logic gates, sequential logic, and oscilloscopes.
Aren't silicon PN junctions a semiconductor topic? If so, doesn't this mean that the rules contradict themselves, since they require a topic explicitly stated not to be in the test to be in the test?
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If anyone's really confused, an FAQ is probably the best route... but it can't be that difficult to study one extra topic, even if you don't need to.Things2do wrote:To me, it sounds more like a exception rule 3.d. than a contradiction of it.DocThorium wrote:Wouldn't that still be a contradiction in the rules, though?UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote: Yes, silicon PN junctions are semiconductors. My guess is that Division C includes silicon PN junctions but no other semiconductor topics.
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Tfw you go to an invitational feeling ready and the circuit test whips out gauss's law. Thank god I take E&M, but that test had more magnetism than AC/DC circuits questions. Only the lab was truly circuits
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When it says on the slideshows that some things are divison C only...does that mean that division b will not cover it at all? Such as op amps?
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Yes, Division B is not supposed to cover things labeled "Division C only" at all. However, especially in invite-level settings, there are often cases when these topics are included on Div B tests, due to ignorance or laziness of the ES. So, it wouldn't hurt to study the 'Div C only' topics, even if you are in Div B.neerja.shah wrote:When it says on the slideshows that some things are divison C only...does that mean that division b will not cover it at all? Such as op amps?
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