Pennsylvania 2010

[earthbot25]

its interesting to see where the gaps are... there are like none in the 200's (b div)

[junexia]

EDIT: According to Wikipedia..

There are several ways to break a tie (draw):

* Before a competition, the event organizer decides on several events to be used as tie-breakers. If two teams get the same score overall, the team that rates highest in that one event will take the lead.
* Another method for tie-breaking is based on medals where the team with more first place medals wins, if both teams have the same amount of first places, it moves to second place medals and so on.
* A third way of tie-breaking is to use a team's score in trial/pilot events. The team with the best combined score in trial events would win the competition when this method is used.

i dont think that it would be fair at all to use the trial events, because people doing the trial events go in fully expecting to just have fun. i mean, getting a medal for trial events would be awesome, but it doesnt have the same pressure that real events do, and some people may not have even studied that much for trial events. if they used that as a tie breaker, a really good team may end up with a really bad score for trial events. anyway, the chances of that happening is so slim that theres not much reason to be discusing it.

[haven chuck]

Our state only uses tiebreaker #2 on that list, and it is unthinkable to go beyond that one. Using trials to break ties is mostly for states like New York, where the Trials counts towards the total score as if it were a real event.

[junexia]

wow really? i didnt know that. i wonder if any other states do that.

[OtherWhiteMeat]

Wow, ONE point. What would happen if (however impossible) they had an unbreakable tie for 2nd?

yeah, im wondering the same thing. i know for tiebreakers they go to number of medals, then first place medals, but what comes after that?

Number of silvers, then bronze, then 4th, and so on. It is a quite interesting hypothetical question, though. Would they give the state 3 teams?

Why would you need to send three teams since a tie with the same score and the same number of each place would not be possible unless you were talking about a 23 way tie?

[junexia]

Why would you need to send three teams since a tie with the same score and the same number of each place would not be possible unless you were talking about a 23 way tie?

not necessarily, its just that the total score would be the exact same.

[OtherWhiteMeat]

Why would you need to send three teams since a tie with the same score and the same number of each place would not be possible unless you were talking about a 23 way tie?

not necessarily, its just that the total score would be the exact same.

Yes but then you would look at 1st place medals to break the tie, then 2nd, and so on. It would be impossible for this process to remain a tie.

[genius3point14159]

I think that if it really were to happen, they might make one of the states that really aren't that competitive (hawaii maybe? i'm completely just guessing) give up a spot.

[oh joy]

CONGRATULATIONS STRATH HAVEN!!!!!! HOPE YOU HAVE FUN AT NATS!!!!
GOOD JOB SHADY SIDE!!!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!!
CONGRATS TO BC TOO!!!

yeah, i know. a little late...nats still hasnt sunk into my head yet...

[junexia]

I think that if it really were to happen, they might make one of the states that really aren't that competitive (hawaii maybe? i'm completely just guessing) give up a spot.

but that would be completely unfair too. i dont think it'll ever happen anyway, so it doesnt really matter.