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Investigations into the president such as the trump one take really long so I'm not gonna be surprised if we find a verdict by the time he is out of office.
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There's too much inequality in this country...
We need communism
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OpticsNerd wrote:There's too much inequality in this country...
We need communism
I genuinely agree with this statement. My only issue is that mankind is not perfect and unfortunately greed and power will always be communisms downfall. Otherwise, the concept is a brilliant idea. (I'm a strong advocated for communism if you can't tell ;) :lol: )
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TheChiScientist wrote:
OpticsNerd wrote:There's too much inequality in this country...
We need communism
I genuinely agree with this statement. My only issue is that mankind is not perfect and unfortunately greed and power will always be communisms downfall. Otherwise, the concept is a brilliant idea. (I'm a strong advocated for communism if you can't tell ;) :lol: )
Communism won't work. Ever. It's been tried in multiple places and we see exactly how it ends up. Of course the concept sounds idealistic when you're first hearing about it, but name a single time when communism (or even socialism for that matter) has ever worked independently for over about ten years. Obviously capitalism comes with its own circumstances, but there doesn't seem to be the ideal economic ideology that would work in every situation.

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zandaddy wrote:
TheChiScientist wrote:
OpticsNerd wrote:There's too much inequality in this country...
We need communism
I genuinely agree with this statement. My only issue is that mankind is not perfect and unfortunately greed and power will always be communisms downfall. Otherwise, the concept is a brilliant idea. (I'm a strong advocated for communism if you can't tell ;) :lol: )
Communism won't work. Ever. It's been tried in multiple places and we see exactly how it ends up. Of course the concept sounds idealistic when you're first hearing about it, but name a single time when communism (or even socialism for that matter) has ever worked independently for over about ten years. Obviously capitalism comes with its own circumstances, but there doesn't seem to be the ideal economic ideology that would work in every situation.
That seems kind of unfair since the rest of the world has been trying to destroy it ever since the idea started...
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UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
zandaddy wrote:
TheChiScientist wrote: I genuinely agree with this statement. My only issue is that mankind is not perfect and unfortunately greed and power will always be communisms downfall. Otherwise, the concept is a brilliant idea. (I'm a strong advocated for communism if you can't tell ;) :lol: )
Communism won't work. Ever. It's been tried in multiple places and we see exactly how it ends up. Of course the concept sounds idealistic when you're first hearing about it, but name a single time when communism (or even socialism for that matter) has ever worked independently for over about ten years. Obviously capitalism comes with its own circumstances, but there doesn't seem to be the ideal economic ideology that would work in every situation.
That seems kind of unfair since the rest of the world has been trying to destroy it ever since it started...
^True plus I advocate for it only in a fair and "perfect" society. The reasons it's failed before (Ex: USSR, China, Cuba, etc) was due to the reason I've stated before. Corruption, Greed, and Despotism will always be communisms downfall so as long as mankind has these issues we will never know if communism is truly effective. (Especially when the U.S Government always squashes any attempt to test it.)
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TheChiScientist wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
zandaddy wrote:
Communism won't work. Ever. It's been tried in multiple places and we see exactly how it ends up. Of course the concept sounds idealistic when you're first hearing about it, but name a single time when communism (or even socialism for that matter) has ever worked independently for over about ten years. Obviously capitalism comes with its own circumstances, but there doesn't seem to be the ideal economic ideology that would work in every situation.
That seems kind of unfair since the rest of the world has been trying to destroy it ever since it started...
^True plus I advocate for it only in a fair and "perfect" society. The reasons it's failed before (Ex: USSR, China, Cuba, etc) was due to the reason I've stated before. Corruption, Greed, and Despotism will always be communisms downfall so as long as mankind has these issues we will never know if communism is truly effective. (Especially when the U.S Government always squashes any attempt to test it.)
It's worth noting that the Zapatistas in Chiapas though not exactly communist aren't exactly failing either.
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TheChiScientist wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
zandaddy wrote:
Communism won't work. Ever. It's been tried in multiple places and we see exactly how it ends up. Of course the concept sounds idealistic when you're first hearing about it, but name a single time when communism (or even socialism for that matter) has ever worked independently for over about ten years. Obviously capitalism comes with its own circumstances, but there doesn't seem to be the ideal economic ideology that would work in every situation.
That seems kind of unfair since the rest of the world has been trying to destroy it ever since it started...
^True plus I advocate for it only in a fair and "perfect" society. The reasons it's failed before (Ex: USSR, China, Cuba, etc) was due to the reason I've stated before. Corruption, Greed, and Despotism will always be communisms downfall so as long as mankind has these issues we will never know if communism is truly effective. (Especially when the U.S Government always squashes any attempt to test it.)
There's also information symmetry and the economic calculation problem. So, I wouldn't exactly say that those are the only things holding back communism.
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TheChiScientist wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
zandaddy wrote:
Communism won't work. Ever. It's been tried in multiple places and we see exactly how it ends up. Of course the concept sounds idealistic when you're first hearing about it, but name a single time when communism (or even socialism for that matter) has ever worked independently for over about ten years. Obviously capitalism comes with its own circumstances, but there doesn't seem to be the ideal economic ideology that would work in every situation.
That seems kind of unfair since the rest of the world has been trying to destroy it ever since it started...
^True plus I advocate for it only in a fair and "perfect" society. The reasons it's failed before (Ex: USSR, China, Cuba, etc) was due to the reason I've stated before. Corruption, Greed, and Despotism will always be communisms downfall so as long as mankind has these issues we will never know if communism is truly effective. (Especially when the U.S Government always squashes any attempt to test it.)
In that sense, I think most people would advocate for communism because you explicitly state it would only work in a "perfect" society, so of course in a "perfect" society as you mentioned, communism would work. But it doesn't realistically, which is what I'm trying to get at.

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zandaddy wrote:
TheChiScientist wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote: That seems kind of unfair since the rest of the world has been trying to destroy it ever since it started...
^True plus I advocate for it only in a fair and "perfect" society. The reasons it's failed before (Ex: USSR, China, Cuba, etc) was due to the reason I've stated before. Corruption, Greed, and Despotism will always be communisms downfall so as long as mankind has these issues we will never know if communism is truly effective. (Especially when the U.S Government always squashes any attempt to test it.)
In that sense, I think most people would advocate for communism because you explicitly state it would only work in a "perfect" society, so of course in a "perfect" society as you mentioned, communism would work. But it doesn't realistically, which is what I'm trying to get at.
I feel like for the benefit of anyone reading we should define communism before talking about it
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