When testing at home, my predictions were, on average, about 1-2 degrees off. Many of them I got right on, but some of them were almost 4 degrees off.Gr8tor wrote:On average, how far off are your predictions.Mine are like 4 degrees off and we won our last invy.
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what equation do I use to predict the final temperature of the water during the event? Stupid question, I know.
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You'll have to do lots of testing for your device first, but Newton's law of cooling is useful for predicting the temperature. However, making an equation/relation based on your own data is probably the best option.robloxparodies wrote:what equation do I use to predict the final temperature of the water during the event? Stupid question, I know.
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my predictions were 3 degrees off and i got second at an invitationalGr8tor wrote:On average, how far off are your predictions.Mine are like 4 degrees off and we won our last invy.
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Thank you! On average, what's the ideal difference of temperature to make sure your device works? When I tested my device using 150 ml of 60 C water, the final temperature was 50 C Is this good?UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:You'll have to do lots of testing for your device first, but Newton's law of cooling is useful for predicting the temperature. However, making an equation/relation based on your own data is probably the best option.robloxparodies wrote:what equation do I use to predict the final temperature of the water during the event? Stupid question, I know.
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That's about what I've been getting too.robloxparodies wrote: Thank you! On average, what's the ideal difference of temperature to make sure your device works? When I tested my device using 150 ml of 60 C water, the final temperature was 50 C Is this good?
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That's a fantastic score. Just don't expect a high prediction score if competing with people with a decent insulator and perfect prediction.robloxparodies wrote: Thank you! On average, what's the ideal difference of temperature to make sure your device works? When I tested my device using 150 ml of 60 C water, the final temperature was 50 C Is this good?
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Do you mean 60C before or after pouring the water in? I’ve found that the water drops about 10 degrees just after pouring it in.John Richardsim wrote:That's about what I've been getting too.robloxparodies wrote: Thank you! On average, what's the ideal difference of temperature to make sure your device works? When I tested my device using 150 ml of 60 C water, the final temperature was 50 C Is this good?
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For me, that's a 60 degree bath temperature before pouring.Alex-RCHS wrote:Do you mean 60C before or after pouring the water in? I’ve found that the water drops about 10 degrees just after pouring it in.John Richardsim wrote:That's about what I've been getting too.robloxparodies wrote: Thank you! On average, what's the ideal difference of temperature to make sure your device works? When I tested my device using 150 ml of 60 C water, the final temperature was 50 C Is this good?
(When I was getting data ready for the Solon invite, I only went by the temperature after pouring...my prediction ended up being 9 degrees too high...)
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I always make a 60° water bath before pouring. The rules say that "event supervisors must announce the temperature of the source water bath", so the way the event should be run, it would be a constant temperature water bath that everyone's water comes out of. Since it is run this way, it does cause for a significant amount of heat loss, and since everyone's work areas are different distances from the water station, it makes quite a difference in heat retention. Now it's basically impossible to run this event perfectly, and there will be discrepancies no matter what.John Richardsim wrote:For me, that's a 60 degree bath temperature before pouring.Alex-RCHS wrote:Do you mean 60C before or after pouring the water in? I’ve found that the water drops about 10 degrees just after pouring it in.John Richardsim wrote: That's about what I've been getting too.
(When I was getting data ready for the Solon invite, I only went by the temperature after pouring...my prediction ended up being 9 degrees too high...)
So kudos to the event supervisors who run this event.
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