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Re: Hovercraft B/C

Posted: March 15th, 2018, 4:15 pm
by cmurthy
Birdmusic wrote: Thank you! I will print out a copy of the general rules as well as the hovercraft rules for state since we have the same ES for state.
Do you know if this ES will permit battery changes in the state tournament?

Re: Hovercraft B/C

Posted: March 15th, 2018, 4:17 pm
by MattChina
cmurthy wrote:
Birdmusic wrote: Thank you! I will print out a copy of the general rules as well as the hovercraft rules for state since we have the same ES for state.
Do you know if this ES will permit battery changes in the state tournament?
I think they should.

Re: Hovercraft B/C

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 5:22 pm
by shrewdPanther46
https://www.amazon.com/Uxcell-a14092600 ... r+actuator

Would this cut it for a DC motor?

Note: Solenoids are the main component of every basic dc motor

Re: Hovercraft B/C

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 6:06 pm
by CMS AC
shrewdPanther46 wrote:https://www.amazon.com/Uxcell-a14092600 ... r+actuator

Would this cut it for a DC motor?

Note: Solenoids are the main component of every basic dc motor
For hover, probably not. You need a propeller too and in my experience Ikara Wright stuff propellers have actually worked quite well.

Re: Hovercraft B/C

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 6:09 pm
by shrewdPanther46
That isn't my point. I am asking if a part of that type (electrical solenoids) are classified as motors.

Re: Hovercraft B/C

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 6:10 pm
by CMS AC
Also, how close are people getting to the 15 second times? We're getting 10 on average, and nothing more than 13.

Re: Hovercraft B/C

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 6:11 pm
by CMS AC
shrewdPanther46 wrote:That isn't my point. I am asking if a part of that type (electrical solenoids) are classified as motors.
I dont know then lol

Re: Hovercraft B/C

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 6:53 pm
by Tesel
shrewdPanther46 wrote:That isn't my point. I am asking if a part of that type (electrical solenoids) are classified as motors.
Unfortunately, the only answer you're probably going to get is that it's iffy and comes down to opinion. In my opinion, it would count; in your ES's opinion, it might not.

The question it comes down to is this: Is it really that much better than a traditional motor, or should you stick with something more safe?

Re: Hovercraft B/C

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 6:56 pm
by Tesel
CMS AC wrote:Also, how close are people getting to the 15 second times? We're getting 10 on average, and nothing more than 13.
On our track at home, we've gotten 14-16 second times. However, it's a pretty rough track (concrete). At our latest competition, we got 12.5 seconds on smoother tile, although I don't remember the length. I assume that since the track length is constant for Div B, a lot of teams are getting fairly close to 15 seconds.

Re: Hovercraft B/C

Posted: March 18th, 2018, 6:59 pm
by shrewdPanther46
Tesel wrote:
shrewdPanther46 wrote:That isn't my point. I am asking if a part of that type (electrical solenoids) are classified as motors.
Unfortunately, the only answer you're probably going to get is that it's iffy and comes down to opinion. In my opinion, it would count; in your ES's opinion, it might not.

The question it comes down to is this: Is it really that much better than a traditional motor, or should you stick with something more safe?
Thanks for responding. I designed a new system just now which uses traditional motors (simply is just a little more confusing to think about and implement).