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Welp. After a two-year slumber global warming shall bring this thread back to life.
So where do you all stand?
Global Warming. (Or climate change )
1. Is it real?
2. Is it human caused or something else?
3. Should we act?
4. How should we act?
(I'll wait for responses before I start commenting )

I find myself more on the center-left side of the spectrum tbh.

megrimlockawesom wrote:I find myself more on the center-left side of the spectrum tbh.

Same here. Yet this is a topic I feel strongly about. You must have opinions on said questions?

TheChiScientist wrote:Welp. After a two-year slumber global warming shall bring this thread back to life.
So where do you all stand?
Global Warming. (Or climate change )
1. Is it real?
2. Is it human caused or something else?
3. Should we act?
4. How should we act?
(I'll wait for responses before I start commenting )

You're choosing to respond to them though.

TheChiScientist wrote:Welp. After a two-year slumber global warming shall bring this thread back to life.
So where do you all stand?
Global Warming. (Or climate change )
1. Is it real?
2. Is it human caused or something else?
3. Should we act?
4. How should we act?
(I'll wait for responses before I start commenting )

1. Yes
2. At least largely
3. Yes
4. Join the Earth Strike movement !!!

Yes I know how shallow this post sounds

Don't forget to answer the poll. viewtopic.php?f=22&t=12811

I think Global Warming is a government strategy used by many, utilizing environmental factors to grasp more legislative control and lay out more regulations for the people of their countries.

There is no denying that the Earth is warming up; it's been warming and cooling for centuries.
Is there human involvement? Possibly, but the way world gov'ts are handling aren't right imo.

CrayolaCrayon wrote:I think Global Warming is a government strategy used by many, utilizing environmental factors to grasp more legislative control and lay out more regulations for the people of their countries.

There is no denying that the Earth is warming up; it's been warming and cooling for centuries.
Is there human involvement? Possibly, but the way world gov'ts are handling aren't right imo.

I actually think that governments worldwide should be doing more to restrict carbon emissions and to incentivize investments into clean and renewable energy. I have a general philosophy that people as a group will act in their own best interests over the best interests of humanity unless incentivized (or forced) not to. However I don't expect all, or even most, people to share this view.

EastStroudsburg13 wrote:

CrayolaCrayon wrote:I think Global Warming is a government strategy used by many, utilizing environmental factors to grasp more legislative control and lay out more regulations for the people of their countries.

There is no denying that the Earth is warming up; it's been warming and cooling for centuries.
Is there human involvement? Possibly, but the way world gov'ts are handling aren't right imo.

I actually think that governments worldwide should be doing more to restrict carbon emissions and to incentivize investments into clean and renewable energy. I have a general philosophy that people as a group will act in their own best interests over the best interests of humanity unless incentivized (or forced) not to. However I don't expect all, or even most, people to share this view.

If anyone should cut carbon emissions, it's China. The USA's emissions are rather small compared to China. If China isn't doing anything to stop their emissions, why should the US? Other countries are essentially laughing at us because we're throwing ourselves under the bus. I believe there is a way to approach this problem without the expansion of government control. They should incentivize, but not restrict. There are millions of people that rely on the coal industry to care for their families;there has to be a better way.

Under Cafe standards, most of our cars could probably be squashed into a cube because they don't really have that much metal if any anymore.

I can see where you're coming from, however.

CrayolaCrayon wrote:
If anyone should cut carbon emissions, it's China. The USA's emissions are rather small compared to China. If China isn't doing anything to stop their emissions, why should the US? Other countries are essentially laughing at us because we're throwing ourselves under the bus. I believe there is a way to approach this problem without the expansion of government control. They should incentivize, but not restrict. There are millions of people that rely on the coal industry to care for their families;there has to be a better way.

Under Cafe standards, most of our cars could probably be squashed into a cube because they don't really have that much metal if any anymore.

I can see where you're coming from, however.

It depends who we're talking about. A lot of European countries are much more restrictive than us and are laughing at us because we're lax, and not the other way around (check out the international coverage of the US pulling out of the Paris Agreement). It's my belief that the US should be leading by example, and not depending on China to dictate what we're doing. China doing the right thing or not should not affect how we as a country act, even if their emissions are greater.

As for the coal industry, those people need to adapt to a changing world and changing needs. It's an unfortunate situation, and given that East Stroudsburg is close to a lot of coal towns, I've been through quite a few of them, but we shouldn't be bending over backwards to prop up a declining industry. There's every opportunity for coal workers to transition into wind, solar, nuclear, geothermal, what have you. I'm not calling for the complete elimination of coal, but as they say, "time is undefeated".

EastStroudsburg13 wrote: It depends who we're talking about. A lot of European countries are much more restrictive than us and are laughing at us because we're lax, and not the other way around (check out the international coverage of the US pulling out of the Paris Agreement). It's my belief that the US should be leading by example, and not depending on China to dictate what we're doing. China doing the right thing or not should not affect how we as a country act, even if their emissions are greater.

As for the coal industry, those people need to adapt to a changing world and changing needs. It's an unfortunate situation, and given that East Stroudsburg is close to a lot of coal towns, I've been through quite a few of them, but we shouldn't be bending over backwards to prop up a declining industry. There's every opportunity for coal workers to transition into wind, solar, nuclear, geothermal, what have you. I'm not calling for the complete elimination of coal, but as they say, "time is undefeated".

I completely agree with this statement. People need to understand that we are independent of the influence of other countries. We are the United States of America! We are always on the forefront of technology! We should set the example for other nations by developing newer technologies that will benefit the planet. If we keep going down this path we are only delaying the inevitable. Remember that coal and oil aren't renewable sources of energy... Eventually we must take this path.