Rotor Egg Drop B

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We are getting times of 2.4 - 2.6 seconds at heights of 14 feet. (Without breaking the egg obviously) Any feedback as to how competitive this would be?
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In terms of weight, what would be a good weight for a device with 11 rotors, or a rotor egg drop device in general? Mine yesterday weighed in at 31g after putting on some new rotors and fixing up the device, but some excess glue is there that I'm going to be getting off soon and I could probably shave it off to around 25g. Would that be a good weight or should I try to get it a bit lighter?
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Just got back from a regional tournament and I got 2nd place! My design had two 24x24 rotors with curved ribs set at about a 10 degree angle. It weighed in at about 12 grams and got a time of 3.05 seconds on a 17 foot drop. The egg survived as well. A good weight would be around 15 grams or less and a good time should be almost 3 seconds on that drop. Also, how do you even fit eleven rotors onto one device? The highest I've tried is eight. Having more rotors on the device lowers the efficiency like crazy. There should be sufficient space between the rotors to let turbulent air calm down. When a rotor goes through the air, it leaves turbulent air behind it, which lowers the efficiency of the rotor behind it. I am not saying that more rotors will make your device worse, I am saying that it does not use every rotor to the maximum potential.
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The instructions say that the device can't contain a balloon, but is it allowed to cut a mylar balloon and use pieces of it to cover the blades?
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As usual, the best place to get official answers about the rules is to ask on the NSO website, www.soinc.org because that's the ONLY official place to get answers. What follows is JUST an opinion.

Assuming all other rules are met (no parachute is the one to watch with flexible coverings) that should be OK. You can buy the exact same material mylar balloons are made of in sheet stock form. Why should it make any difference if you cut it from a balloon? Consider, you can make a perfectly good balloon out of any non-permeable flexible membrane material. If the ability to make a balloon from the covering eliminated it, it would also eliminate Japanese tissue, grocery store bags, plastic wrap, etc.

Warning though, are you sure the balloon material is the lightest covering you have access to? I haven't weighed it, but just handling it, seems like some of the grocery store or produce bags are lighter. Before you use it, consider weighing equal size pieces of different coverings and select the lightest.

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SOCoach wrote:We are getting times of 2.4 - 2.6 seconds at heights of 14 feet. (Without breaking the egg obviously) Any feedback as to how competitive this would be?
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jander14indoor wrote:As usual, the best place to get official answers about the rules is to ask on the NSO website, http://www.soinc.org because that's the ONLY official place to get answers. What follows is JUST an opinion.

Assuming all other rules are met (no parachute is the one to watch with flexible coverings) that should be OK. You can buy the exact same material mylar balloons are made of in sheet stock form. Why should it make any difference if you cut it from a balloon? Consider, you can make a perfectly good balloon out of any non-permeable flexible membrane material. If the ability to make a balloon from the covering eliminated it, it would also eliminate Japanese tissue, grocery store bags, plastic wrap, etc.

Warning though, are you sure the balloon material is the lightest covering you have access to? I haven't weighed it, but just handling it, seems like some of the grocery store or produce bags are lighter. Before you use it, consider weighing equal size pieces of different coverings and select the lightest.

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Thanks. I think I've found a different material to use, but your response was helpful.
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I am stuck on how to begin my project. I need some help to get started :)
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TrueshotBarrage wrote:I am stuck on how to begin my project. I need some help to get started :)

Step 1: Read the rules.
Step 2: Read them again. Make sure you have a solid understanding of all the required aspects of the event.
Step 3: Check out the official event page on the SO website (http://www.soinc.org/rotor_egg_drop_b) and follow the various links
Step 4: Check out the SciOly wiki page (http://scioly.org/wiki/index.php/Rotor_Egg_Drop)
Step 5. Try building something. The best way to learn is to experiment.
Step 6. When you get stuck or have specific questions, post them here.

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Post by TrueshotBarrage »

All right, I actually did everything you listed (maybe except No. 5, which I tested a rotor (factory made, can't use)), but I did everything again (except for No. 5).

I actually looked at some pictures, and here is a design I like a lot :)
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Do you think it's a good design?
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