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Re: Wright Stuff C

Posted: October 24th, 2018, 6:53 am
by Polar
I know Dave's kit this year is a tandem plane, but the rules say it must be a monoplane. Would a tandem be considered a monoplane?

Re: Wright Stuff C

Posted: October 24th, 2018, 8:03 am
by CrayolaCrayon
jander14indoor wrote:Comment on instructions. Yes the Freedom Flight ones are wonderful. But there are a lot of free ones on the internet.


A TREASURE trove of information for the more advanced is the old indoor freeflight news letter, Indoor News and Views, INAV, look under downloads,
https://indoornewsandviews.com/downloads/
particularly the Best of..
https://indoornewsandviews.files.wordpr ... f-inav.pdf
Useful articles:
Easy EZB Props..................................................................................................................................... 28
Hobby Shop EZB .................................................................................................................................. 34
Balsa Grain............................................................................................................................................ 83
“My Way” Penny Plane construction.................................................................................................... 87
Winding................................................................................................................................................154

Jeff Anderson
Livonia, MI


This is a gold mine ^

Re: Wright Stuff C

Posted: October 24th, 2018, 8:08 am
by CrayolaCrayon
Polar wrote:I know Dave's kit this year is a tandem plane, but the rules say it must be a monoplane. Would a tandem be considered a monoplane?
If I recall correctly, Dave's design is a little bit shy of a tandem, but is not a true tandem, as the horizontal stabilizer is ever so slightly shorter than the wing(he designs the plane so it meets all qualifications). I think his 2019 kit built by the instructions would meet all parameters for size (I think).

Re: Wright Stuff C

Posted: October 24th, 2018, 8:38 am
by coachchuckaahs
the "Monoplane" in the rules is described such that the "wing" is defined as the single largest surface. Thus, with a "very near tandem", one surface will be larger than the other, and thus be the "wing".

One could purposely make one surface a measurable amount smaller without affecting flying characteristics.

Coach Chuck

Re: Wright Stuff C

Posted: October 24th, 2018, 5:06 pm
by Jn366435
OpticsNerd wrote:
Jn366435 wrote:So I've used last years Freedom Flight Model and transferred all the measurnments to this years. However, my plane has trouble gaining lift, and so it just goes downwards. The weight is about 8.3g and the rubber motor is 65 and is about 2.3 grams. I wind it about 1500 times. Can someone help me with the lift? It see,s like it doesn't have enough power... :D Thx.
I think you need a rubber motor with a thicker cross-section. Last year at nationals I used 0.052 and got 4th, but you need to remember the new changes for this year. Did you change your propeller from the 14cm to 24 cm? 0.065 will definitely not work with a 24cm propeller. The freedom flight kit this year comes with a 24 cm propeller and the thinnest rubber provided in the kit is 0.087. Also, remember the new minimum weight. Last year's minimum weight was 7 grams. This year it's 8 grams. It may not seem like a big difference but it actually matters quite a lot.
Yea, i think the rubber is too thin. Thanks!

Re: Wright Stuff C

Posted: October 24th, 2018, 6:16 pm
by DarthBuilder
What do you guys think competitive scores will be?

Re: Wright Stuff C

Posted: October 24th, 2018, 6:28 pm
by TheChiScientist
DarthBuilder wrote:What do you guys think competitive scores will be?
Depends on the ceiling... (Here my guesses. Assume all bonuses given and no penalties.)
Low ceiling: 2:15-3:00 (I'd say any place that's less than 25 Feet)
Medium ceiling: 2:45-3:30 (I'd say any place that's 35 Feet or less)
High ceiling: 3:30-4:30 (I'd say any place that's 50 Feet or less)
Insanely high ceiling: 4:45+ (UIUC Armory falls under this category. ;) It's almost 100 feet btw. :o )

Re: Wright Stuff C

Posted: October 25th, 2018, 7:27 pm
by Jn366435
Does anyone know what Rubber Band I should use for a 15 cm propeller? Plane with hard time getting lift..

Re: Wright Stuff C

Posted: October 26th, 2018, 1:32 pm
by OpticsNerd
Jn366435 wrote:Does anyone know what Rubber Band I should use for a 15 cm propeller? Plane with hard time getting lift..
How much does the propeller weigh? Is it flaring or just a regular propeller? How heavy is your entire plane without the rubber?

Re: Wright Stuff C

Posted: October 26th, 2018, 5:47 pm
by noah.blome21
Right now I am flying about 1:40 with 23" 2.06g .072" rubber at approximately 0.3-inch-ounces and 115 turns on a 1:15 winder and the 15cm ikra propeller without any modifications our plane weighs 8.00 g. I was wondering what you would recommend doing as the next step in improving flight time.