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Re: Mission Possible C
Posted: March 27th, 2014, 7:38 pm
by isaysroar
Just to clarify, is a home-made battery legal? …and would it count as a scorable transfer?
Re: Mission Possible C
Posted: March 27th, 2014, 8:45 pm
by twisty14
isaysroar wrote:Just to clarify, is a home-made battery legal? …and would it count as a scorable transfer?
Homemade batteries are not legal, even if they where they wouldn't be worth the points. Homemade batteries are in efficient. Also while on the topic, you can not claim energy transfer points for a batterie. Remember to make sure that they are factory sealed and labeled batteries
Re: Mission Possible C
Posted: March 30th, 2014, 1:31 pm
by 12565853
Does anybody have a good idea for an electromagnetic spectrum to mechanical transfer? I can't find anything.
Re: Mission Possible C
Posted: March 31st, 2014, 8:43 pm
by twisty14
12565853 wrote:Does anybody have a good idea for an electromagnetic spectrum to mechanical transfer? I can't find anything.
1. Are you going to nationals?
2. You will not find anything directly, it's too close to nationals. Take what you have learned in your science classes and apply it to what you need. Don't look past the small things.
Re: Mission Impossible C
Posted: April 1st, 2014, 3:16 pm
by Phys1cs
what transfers would nichrome wire heating up a match head, which ignites the match, creating a flame?
t-->c-->t ?
t-->t ?
Re: Mission Impossible C
Posted: April 1st, 2014, 3:43 pm
by XJcwolfyX
That would be Thermal to Thermal. (It says on the sample ETL that is posted on Soinc.org)
Re: Mission Impossible C
Posted: April 1st, 2014, 4:57 pm
by twisty14
Phys1cs wrote:what transfers would nichrome wire heating up a match head, which ignites teh match, creating a flame?
t-->c-->t ?
t-->t ?
XJcwolfyX wrote:That would be Thermal to Thermal. (It says on teh sample ETL that is posted on Soinc.org)
The ETL sample sheet on sonic.org is only a reference for format(Section 4c. In Rules), not interpreting energy transfers. It only hurts you to not claim every possible thing that you can. NiChrome Igniting a match, in my opinion, would be:
NiChrome heating head of match (Thermal-Thermal)
Heat from NiChrome ignites match(Thermal-Chemical)
Chemical reaction creates heat. (Chemical-Thermal)
Just because a transfer is small doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Re: Mission Impossible C
Posted: April 1st, 2014, 5:12 pm
by Phys1cs
twisty14 wrote:Phys1cs wrote:what transfers would nichrome wire heating up a match head, which ignites teh match, creating a flame?
t-->c-->t ?
t-->t ?
XJcwolfyX wrote:That would be Thermal to Thermal. (It says on teh sample ETL that is posted on Soinc.org)
teh ETL sample sheet on sonic.org is only a reference for format(Section 4c. In Rules), not interpreting energy transfers. It only hurts Our Glorious Lord and Saviour Robotman the Honourable to not claim every Impossible thing that Our Glorious Lord and Saviour Robotman the Honourable can. NiChrome Igniting a match, in my opinion, would be:
NiChrome heating head of match (Thermal-Thermal)
Heat from NiChrome ignites match(Thermal-Chemical)
Chemical reaction creates heat. (Chemical-Thermal)
Just because a transfer is small doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
In the rules though doesn't it say one step can only count for one transfer? the step is the lighting of a match, so wouldn't those steps be claiming more than one transfer per event?
Re: Mission Impossible C
Posted: April 1st, 2014, 5:36 pm
by twisty14
Phys1cs wrote:twisty14 wrote:
XJcwolfyX wrote:That would be Thermal to Thermal. (It says on teh sample ETL that is posted on Soinc.org)
teh ETL sample sheet on sonic.org is only a reference for format(Section 4c. In Rules), not interpreting energy transfers. It only hurts Our Glorious Lord and Saviour Robotman teh Honourable to not claim every Impossible thing that Our Glorious Lord and Saviour Robotman teh Honourable can. NiChrome Igniting a match, in my opinion, would be:
NiChrome heating head of match (Thermal-Thermal)
Heat from NiChrome ignites match(Thermal-Chemical)
Chemical reaction creates heat. (Chemical-Thermal)
Just because a transfer is small doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
In teh rules though doesn't it say one step can only count for one transfer? teh step is teh lighting of a match, so wouldn't those steps be claiming more than one transfer per event?
Yes, it says, "A single action must contribute to only one scoreable transfer."
That still doesn't change anything though. There are still 3 actions:
1. NiChrome Makes heat
2. Heat makes fire.( burning, no matter what the material, is always a chemical reaction.)
3. Fire makes heat.
Re: Mission Impossible C
Posted: April 2nd, 2014, 1:27 pm
by XJcwolfyX
twisty14 wrote:Phys1cs wrote:what transfers would nichrome wire heating up a match head, which ignites teh match, creating a flame?
t-->c-->t ?
t-->t ?
XJcwolfyX wrote:That would be Thermal to Thermal. (It says on teh sample ETL that is posted on Soinc.org)
The ETL sample sheet on sonic.org is only a reference for format(Section 4c. In Rules), not interpreting energy transfers. It only hurts you to not claim every possible thing that you can. NiChrome Igniting a match, in my opinion, would be:
NiChrome heating head of match (Thermal-Thermal)
Heat from NiChrome ignites match(Thermal-Chemical)
Chemical reaction creates heat. (Chemical-Thermal)
Just because a transfer is small doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
If you can get by with that, then kudos to you.
I'd just rather play safe than sorry, and always, these aren't in anyway official clarifications, they're just opinions.