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Re: Mission Possible C

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 8:14 pm
by mnstrviola
So even with this clarification I still am confused on how identical the containers must be. If I have a hole in one of them must all the rest have a similar hole? If, so, for the container used to shake, could I cover the hole up with my hands while I shake so the materials don't fall out? I feel like general rule #2 is on my side but it would be nice if someone were to (non-officially) confirm/agree :)

Re: Mission Possible C

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 9:13 pm
by Cheese_Muffin_Man
mnstrviola wrote:So even with this clarification I still am confused on how identical the containers must be. If I have a hole in one of them must all the rest have a similar hole? If, so, for the container used to shake, could I cover the hole up with my hands while I shake so the materials don't fall out? I feel like general rule #2 is on my side but it would be nice if someone were to (non-officially) confirm/agree :)
Hmm. I would think that they don't have to be THAT identical. The clarification certainly doesn't make it seem that they have to be exactly similar.

Re: Mission Possible C

Posted: March 8th, 2014, 8:44 am
by sciolybeast
If I were to use a current to ignite steel wool, would you guys (unofficially) consider that to be an electrical to chemical to thermal transfer, or an electrical to thermal transfer? The steel wool is essentially burning to release heat, which is a chemical process.

Re: Mission Possible C

Posted: March 8th, 2014, 1:05 pm
by colorado mtn science
sciolybeast wrote:If I were to use a current to ignite steel wool, would you guys (unofficially) consider that to be an electrical to chemical to thermal transfer, or an electrical to thermal transfer? The steel wool is essentially burning to release heat, which is a chemical process.
Possibly elec-->therm-->chem-->therm. The electricity heats the steel wool which starts the combustion reaction which releases more heat. Be careful though, because the flame from this may be too large to consider safe, and you may be tiered down. It's probably better to use a match.

Re: Mission Possible C

Posted: March 8th, 2014, 4:09 pm
by twisty14
colorado mtn science wrote:
sciolybeast wrote:If I were to use a current to ignite steel wool, would you guys (unofficially) consider that to be an electrical to chemical to thermal transfer, or an electrical to thermal transfer? The steel wool is essentially burning to release heat, which is a chemical process.
Possibly elec-->therm-->chem-->therm. The electricity heats the steel wool which starts the combustion reaction which releases more heat. Be careful though, because the flame from this may be too large to consider safe, and you may be tiered down. It's probably better to use a match.
But what's stopping a judge from saying that the heat from the electrical- thermal is setting off your next step. Thus skipping over thermal-chem-thermal. It's very risky to claim transfers like that.

Re: Mission Possible C

Posted: March 8th, 2014, 11:45 pm
by teaforterry
I was wondering if anyone knew how the wind generated by a fan would be counted in regards to being an energy transfer. Is it mechanical? Thanks! [Sorry if this seems like a silly question, I just want to make sure ><;; ]

Re: Mission Possible C

Posted: March 9th, 2014, 2:58 pm
by twisty14
teaforterry wrote:I was wondering if anyone knew how the wind generated by a fan would be counted in regards to being an energy transfer. Is it mechanical? Thanks! [Sorry if this seems like a silly question, I just want to make sure ><;; ]
Yes. Mechanical.

Re: Mission Possible C

Posted: March 10th, 2014, 12:11 pm
by vitamintk
twisty14 wrote:
Flavorflav wrote:
twisty14 wrote: 20cmX20cmX20Cm, Every Transfer but 2 ElectroMagnetic, Perfect Sort, Perfect Time.
New poster + no state or school = questionable reliability in my book.
1.) I would post a picture but i'm not that stupid.
2.) See you at Nationals.

U THINK THATS GOOD SCRUB?
19X19X19 PERFECT SORT PERFECT TIME EVERY TRANSFER INCLUDING 2 EMS
C U @ NATZ
:ugeek: :geek: :ugeek: :geek: :ugeek: :geek: :ugeek: :geek: ;)

:cry: <--- YOU @ NATS

jk we suck

Re: Mission Possible C

Posted: March 10th, 2014, 4:06 pm
by twisty14
vitamintk wrote:
twisty14 wrote:
Flavorflav wrote:
New poster + no state or school = questionable reliability in my book.
1.) I would post a picture but i'm not that stupid.
2.) See you at Nationals.

U THINK THATS GOOD SCRUB?
19X19X19 PERFECT SORT PERFECT TIME EVERY TRANSFER INCLUDING 2 EMS
C U @ NATZ
:ugeek: :geek: :ugeek: :geek: :ugeek: :geek: :ugeek: :geek: ;)

:cry: <--- YOU @ NATS

jk we suck
Yes.

Re: Mission Possible C

Posted: March 11th, 2014, 8:19 am
by colorado mtn science
twisty14 wrote:
colorado mtn science wrote:
sciolybeast wrote:If I were to use a current to ignite steel wool, would you guys (unofficially) consider that to be an electrical to chemical to thermal transfer, or an electrical to thermal transfer? The steel wool is essentially burning to release heat, which is a chemical process.
Possibly elec-->therm-->chem-->therm. The electricity heats the steel wool which starts the combustion reaction which releases more heat. Be careful though, because the flame from this may be too large to consider safe, and you may be tiered down. It's probably better to use a match.
But what's stopping a judge from saying that the heat from the electrical- thermal is setting off your next step. Thus skipping over thermal-chem-thermal. It's very risky to claim transfers like that.
Since a combustion reaction is ectothermic, it give of heat (anyone who sticks their hands in fire knows this). Although the reaction requires heat to start, it gives off a lot more heat than needed to start it. So if the heat from the electricity doesn't start the next task, the combustion of steel wool should be what does. Any smart judge should recognize this.