Re: Scrambler C
Posted: May 25th, 2014, 9:00 am
That's a very interesting idea of having the scrambler push the egg out to some distance and then drop the egg and go back to the starting line.
Scrambler Rules 3.d.thsom wrote:Hey guys I know it's been a while but at Illinois scioly State the distance given was 9.0 meters and I am wondering if that would be something allowed for next year? The states distances are supposed to be chosen from intervals of .5 meters but the director said that it never specified in the rules what the starting point of the .5 m would be. They are correct in that. The rules does not say it must be one of the distances that are in .5 m increments from 8.7 meters to 11.7 meters. Is there a way there could be a portion in the rules for next year that could make sure something like this does not happen again?
Maybe to us it's clear that this isn't what was intended by the rules. But at the same time, it's not like 3d explicitly states that 8.7 is the minimum value from which we measure all greater increments. The fact that things like this occur does call for a better wording. Maybe we don't literally need to spell out all of the possible distances at each level, but that's certainly one way to make it clearer.penclspinner wrote:Scrambler Rules 3.d.thsom wrote:Hey guys I know it's been a while but at Illinois scioly State the distance given was 9.0 meters and I am wondering if that would be something allowed for next year? The states distances are supposed to be chosen from intervals of .5 meters but the director said that it never specified in the rules what the starting point of the .5 m would be. They are correct in that. The rules does not say it must be one of the distances that are in .5 m increments from 8.7 meters to 11.7 meters. Is there a way there could be a portion in the rules for next year that could make sure something like this does not happen again?
The Terminal Barrier must be located at a chosen distance 8.70-11.70 m from the Starting Line in 1.00 m intervals for Regional, 0.50 m intervals for State and 0.10 m intervals for the National Tournaments.
Honestly, I'm not sure how one would make this more clear.
I can think of 2 possible ways to convert the KE of the vehicle into elastic PE while in motion, which in turn can be converted to KE to move the vehicle back.BuildistFromTheNorth wrote:I highly doubt they would make the car go backwards cause the whole point of the event is to power it with a falling mass and you would need some sort of energy propulsion to get you back. It made more sense for mousetrap because the energy system was already on the car and to make it go backwards you just added another one. Not saying it was easy but it fit the premise of the event.
nxtscholar wrote: Now that I think about, rather than getting rid of the rule allowing the egg to touch the end barrier, I think it'd be interesting if they made it mandatory to actually make contact with it. That would leave open many new considerations like how fast can a scrambler travel, the overall design, etc. In my mind, it'd actually encourage and reward those who tested to make sure the egg would survive impact.
Oh, you didn't miss anything. What I was saying was that rather than giving the option for someone to touch the wall, it'd be interesting if they made it a requirement. That would introduce some new limits as to how fast a vehicle can travel and survive impact, design changes to perhaps control speed, etc. My point was that by making it a requirement, it provides even more incentive and rewards for teams that test their scramblers to perfectioniwonder wrote:nxtscholar wrote: Now that I think about, rather than getting rid of the rule allowing the egg to touch the end barrier, I think it'd be interesting if they made it mandatory to actually make contact with it. That would leave open many new considerations like how fast can a scrambler travel, the overall design, etc. In my mind, it'd actually encourage and reward those who tested to make sure the egg would survive impact.
Sorry if I missed something, but where was a rule saying the egg couldn't touch the barrier? The only rule I noticed was if it cracked and leaked you were done.