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3.d. Commercial batteries, not exceeding 14.4 volts as labeled

Just my opinion:
Because it says, "Commercial batteries" if i was the supervisor I would be looking for a Commercial label, as placed by the manufacture. not one made by the students.

How about bringing your own voltmeter to show the judge?

Again, opinion. The rules say "labeled" voltage, nothing about actual. Note, labeled and actual are NOT the same values typically.

Let me reiterate the point I was trying to make earlier. This is not about what the rules say precisely. This is about risk assessment. Is it worth the risk of being second tiered to avoid having batteries with clearly labeled voltage? Speaking as a coach, I'd say avoid the risk and get a new set of batteries!

PS, comment about intent here. There is a reason the rules don't mention voltmeters. We figure anyone can read a label, but we can't depend on any random event supervisor to know how to use a voltmeter correctly.

Just some thoughts

Jeff Anderson
Livonia, MI

Not to interrupt the discussion, but would this be an appropriate thread to ask a Sketchup-related question about modeling?

FueL wrote:Not to interrupt the discussion, but would this be an appropriate thread to ask a Sketchup-related question about modeling?

Sure, go ahead. I've gotten quite a bit of experience thanks to this event!

Alright. So I'm a bit of a Sketchup newbie, and I'm not sure how to "crop" or cut off part of an object. I downloaded the VEX 25x5 hole plate from their website, but the piece on our robot is actually 6x5. How would I delete the extra portion?

FueL wrote:Alright. So I'm a bit of a Sketchup newbie, and I'm not sure how to "crop" or cut off part of an object. I downloaded the VEX 25x5 hole plate from their website, but the piece on our robot is actually 6x5. How would I delete the extra portion?

Looking at the 5x25 file available in the sketchup warehouse, it appears that it is a collection of five 5x5 arrays. You can just select 4 of the arrays and hit delete to bring it down to a single 5x5 array. Then, right click on the 5x5 plate and select explode to make each hole an individual component. Hold shift while clicking on each hole in one row to select the full row, then copy and paste the row along the end of the array to make a 6x5 plate. Let us know if that works or does not work for you and where you get hung up if you get stuck.

chalker7 wrote: Looking at the 5x25 file available in the sketchup warehouse, it appears that it is a collection of five 5x5 arrays. You can just select 4 of the arrays and hit delete to bring it down to a single 5x5 array. Then, right click on the 5x5 plate and select explode to make each hole an individual component. Hold shift while clicking on each hole in one row to select the full row, then copy and paste the row along the end of the array to make a 6x5 plate. Let us know if that works or does not work for you and where you get hung up if you get stuck.

I can't seem to find the piece in the Sketchup warehouse, as I originally downloaded it as a step file from the VEX wiki, opened it in Inventor Fusion, and saved it as a dwg file to import.

FueL wrote:

chalker7 wrote: Looking at the 5x25 file available in the sketchup warehouse, it appears that it is a collection of five 5x5 arrays. You can just select 4 of the arrays and hit delete to bring it down to a single 5x5 array. Then, right click on the 5x5 plate and select explode to make each hole an individual component. Hold shift while clicking on each hole in one row to select the full row, then copy and paste the row along the end of the array to make a 6x5 plate. Let us know if that works or does not work for you and where you get hung up if you get stuck.

I can't seem to find the piece in the Sketchup warehouse, as I originally downloaded it as a step file from the VEX wiki, opened it in Inventor Fusion, and saved it as a dwg file to import.

Here is the link: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... revstart=0

chalker7 wrote:Here is the link: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... revstart=0

Thanks! It works.