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Re: 2013 National Tournament: Wright State University

Posted: February 12th, 2013, 5:51 pm
by Luo
Another (potentially more useful) source is this screenshot, which shows the registration breakdown by Division B and C, which is how the national berths and team numbers are assigned: http://i.imgur.com/XmgOe77.png
This registration number breakdown was removed from the national tournament website shortly after it was posted.

As a more direct response to Bozongle's question above, Indiana tied with Colorado for Division B registrations last year (each had 66) and this tie happened to straddle the two-team cutoff -- Indiana got two Division B spots at nationals but Colorado got only one. From the Colorado website, I see that Colorado has 75 Division B teams registered this year (38 at their Northern Regional and 37 at their Southern Regional), so Indiana would have to have a net gain of 10 Division B teams from last year to maintain a second Division B nationals spot, assuming no other states rose or fell in registrations too dramatically and Oklahoma claims its Division B spot.

Re: 2013 National Tournament: Wright State University

Posted: February 16th, 2013, 9:58 am
by sjwon3789
Is the cutoff basically based on how many teams register?

Re: 2013 National Tournament: Wright State University

Posted: February 16th, 2013, 2:00 pm
by Bozongle
Luo wrote:Another (potentially more useful) source is this screenshot, which shows the registration breakdown by Division B and C, which is how the national berths and team numbers are assigned: http://i.imgur.com/XmgOe77.png
This registration number breakdown was removed from the national tournament website shortly after it was posted.

As a more direct response to Bozongle's question above, Indiana tied with Colorado for Division B registrations last year (each had 66) and this tie happened to straddle the two-team cutoff -- Indiana got two Division B spots at nationals but Colorado got only one. From the Colorado website, I see that Colorado has 75 Division B teams registered this year (38 at their Northern Regional and 37 at their Southern Regional), so Indiana would have to have a net gain of 10 Division B teams from last year to maintain a second Division B nationals spot, assuming no other states rose or fell in registrations too dramatically and Oklahoma claims its Division B spot.
Most of those schools have multiple different teams, since only one team from each school can go to State, so is it based on TEAM registrations, or SCHOOL registrations? Because if you counted one team from each school, it would be way less, especially the 8 teams from Lesher MS. :shock:

Re: 2013 National Tournament: Wright State University

Posted: February 16th, 2013, 2:02 pm
by foreverphysics
It is based on team registration.

Re: 2013 National Tournament: Wright State University

Posted: February 16th, 2013, 2:48 pm
by Luo
Foreverphysics is correct.

Re: 2013 National Tournament: Wright State University

Posted: February 16th, 2013, 5:07 pm
by fozendog
That's why our school has 4 teams going to regionals XD

Re: 2013 National Tournament: Wright State University

Posted: February 20th, 2013, 6:37 pm
by kentuckyfan1001
Just saw Ohio's state schedule today. It's exactly the same as the nationals schedule, which isn't surprising since nationals is in Ohio.

So, the big question is: does anyone know what other states copy the states schedule? It seems like it puts nationals teams from that state at a huge advantage.

Re: 2013 National Tournament: Wright State University

Posted: February 20th, 2013, 8:13 pm
by rfscoach
kentuckyfan1001 wrote:Just saw Ohio's state schedule today. It's exactly the same as the nationals schedule, which isn't surprising since nationals is in Ohio.

So, the big question is: does anyone know what other states copy the states schedule? It seems like it puts nationals teams from that state at a huge advantage.
I would expect that most competitive teams base the events each student is studying around the National Schedule when it is published in September. I know the top 3 division B teams in Georgia do. And even though our state schedule is radically different than the National schedule, I am still able to use the exact same partner pairings that I would use at Nationals. In fact we plan our state team that way. The last two years our 15th team member for the state team has made it on to the team specifically because of a potential conflict at Nationals and the fact that I will not reconfigure the team composition between the State and National Tournaments.

Re: 2013 National Tournament: Wright State University

Posted: February 24th, 2013, 2:11 pm
by awesome90220
kentuckyfan1001 wrote:Just saw Ohio's state schedule today. It's exactly the same as the nationals schedule, which isn't surprising since nationals is in Ohio.

So, the big question is: does anyone know what other states copy the states schedule? It seems like it puts nationals teams from that state at a huge advantage.
Where is this schedule for nats?
fozendog wrote:That's why our school has 4 teams going to regionals XD
We had eight :D

Re: 2013 National Tournament: Wright State University

Posted: February 24th, 2013, 2:15 pm
by kentuckyfan1001
awesome90220 wrote:
kentuckyfan1001 wrote:Just saw Ohio's state schedule today. It's exactly the same as the nationals schedule, which isn't surprising since nationals is in Ohio.

So, the big question is: does anyone know what other states copy the states schedule? It seems like it puts nationals teams from that state at a huge advantage.
Where is this schedule for nats?
fozendog wrote:That's why our school has 4 teams going to regionals XD
We had eight :D
The schedule is on the back cover of the rules book.