Optics B/C

cngu23
Member
Member
Posts: 248
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:57 pm
Division: C
State: MD
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Optics B/C

Post by cngu23 »

JSGandora wrote:
smartkid222 wrote:but i've only heard of one instance in which a test required calculus.
One instance in Optics? Or some other event? :shock:

Also, why is spherical aberration reduced if many lenses are used? It seems unintuitive to me because each lens has some spherical aberration and it piles up (intuitively, although I may be wrong).
I don't think you need calculus for optics. Even for events such as technical problem solving, calculus seems unlikely to be tested.
Marriotts Ridge 11-
Walter Johnson 09-11

13 MD Regional/State
Material S (2/-) TPS (-/2)
12 MD Regional/State
Remote S(2/6) Water Q(2/4) Optics (-/5)
11 MD Regional
Remote S(2) Eco(2) D Planet(3)
JSGandora
Member
Member
Posts: 613
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:09 pm
Division: C
State: NJ
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Optics B/C

Post by JSGandora »

Aiight, thanks. That confirms what I thought. I just wanted to make sure because I'm a freshmen and just wanted to confirm my suspicion about Division C mathematics.

So, why is spherical aberration reduced if many lenses are used? It seems unintuitive to me because each lens has some spherical aberration and it piles up (intuitively, although I may be wrong).
User avatar
ichaelm
Member
Member
Posts: 440
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:10 pm
Division: Grad
State: PA
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Optics B/C

Post by ichaelm »

Who told you that? I have never heard of that phenomenon. Has anyone else?
JSGandora
Member
Member
Posts: 613
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:09 pm
Division: C
State: NJ
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Optics B/C

Post by JSGandora »

It was in my physics textbook (Giancoli).
cngu23
Member
Member
Posts: 248
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:57 pm
Division: C
State: MD
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Optics B/C

Post by cngu23 »

JSGandora wrote:It was in my physics textbook (Giancoli).
I'm using the same textbook for studying but haven't noticed that section yet.

Spherical aberration is when the image isn't focused at a concrete point, so maybe multiple lens can refocus the image many times to reduce the aberration?
Last edited by cngu23 on Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Marriotts Ridge 11-
Walter Johnson 09-11

13 MD Regional/State
Material S (2/-) TPS (-/2)
12 MD Regional/State
Remote S(2/6) Water Q(2/4) Optics (-/5)
11 MD Regional
Remote S(2) Eco(2) D Planet(3)
JSGandora
Member
Member
Posts: 613
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:09 pm
Division: C
State: NJ
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Optics B/C

Post by JSGandora »

cngu23 wrote: Spherical aberration is when there are two focal points
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure spherical aberration is when the light rays away from the center of the lens do not focus at the same point as rays near the center of the lens, but even still there is not definitely focal point, but there are circles of confusion:
Image
cngu23
Member
Member
Posts: 248
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:57 pm
Division: C
State: MD
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Optics B/C

Post by cngu23 »

JSGandora wrote:
cngu23 wrote: Spherical aberration is when there are two focal points
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure spherical aberration is when the light rays away from the center of the lens do not focus at the same point as rays near the center of the lens, but even still there is not definitely focal point, but there are circles of confusion:
Image
yeah, I realized that a while after
Somehow, I was thinking of astigmatism lol
Marriotts Ridge 11-
Walter Johnson 09-11

13 MD Regional/State
Material S (2/-) TPS (-/2)
12 MD Regional/State
Remote S(2/6) Water Q(2/4) Optics (-/5)
11 MD Regional
Remote S(2) Eco(2) D Planet(3)
Schrodingerscat
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 393
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:10 pm
Division: Grad
State: KS
Pronouns: He/Him/His
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 14 times

Re: Optics B/C

Post by Schrodingerscat »

JSGandora wrote:
So, why is spherical aberration reduced if many lenses are used? It seems unintuitive to me because each lens has some spherical aberration and it piles up (intuitively, although I may be wrong).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt_corrector_plate
Non-spherical shaped lens, such as the Schmidt corrector plate, can correct by correcting light more or less at different radii. However, I am not aware of spherical lens being able to correct spherical aberrations.
JSGandora
Member
Member
Posts: 613
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:09 pm
Division: C
State: NJ
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Optics B/C

Post by JSGandora »

cngu23 wrote: I'm using the same textbook for studying but haven't noticed that section yet.
By the way, it's in the Optical Instruments chapter.
cngu23
Member
Member
Posts: 248
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:57 pm
Division: C
State: MD
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Optics B/C

Post by cngu23 »

JSGandora wrote:
cngu23 wrote: I'm using the same textbook for studying but haven't noticed that section yet.
By the way, it's in the Optical Instruments chapter.
Alright, I will look it up later. But for now, shouldn't the textbook have an explanation for what it's saying?

@Schrodingerscat And I remember that the textbook stated something about all spherical mirrors having an aberration, which can be fixed using an elliptical mirror. But I don't understand how a spherical mirror can refocus the image of another spherical mirror and remove the aberration.

An elliptical mirror might be able to refocus and image produced by a spherical mirror and remove the aberration.
Marriotts Ridge 11-
Walter Johnson 09-11

13 MD Regional/State
Material S (2/-) TPS (-/2)
12 MD Regional/State
Remote S(2/6) Water Q(2/4) Optics (-/5)
11 MD Regional
Remote S(2) Eco(2) D Planet(3)

Return to “2012 Lab Events”